Here's a video on the Epstein topic. It further explains why I don't want names released.

I'd rather indictments of the players and not just names.

https://youtu.be/J7CUbeztjlw?si=x4Bi0YuC_MZkOXTo

BTW, I just read a message for Barry's Spox and they want everyone to focus on the Epstein list and not his Russia Russia involvement.

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Here's a video on the Epstein topic. It further explains why I don't
want names released.

I'd rather indictments of the players and not just names.

https://youtu.be/J7CUbeztjlw?si=x4Bi0YuC_MZkOXTo

Same here. We already heard about Bill Richardson being associated. And that senator he mentioned, I never even heard of him. (Bill Richardson is deceased.)

Normally I'm in favor of "guilt by association," but in this case I'm not. It's just convenient but irrelevant facts. (i.e. "Jeff Epstein drank Bud Light all the time.")

BTW, I just read a message for Barry's Spox and they want everyone to focus on the Epstein list and not his Russia Russia involvement.

That's logical for him, but not for us.

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On 22 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Same here. We already heard about Bill Richardson being associated. And that senator he mentioned, I never even heard of him. (Bill Richardson
is deceased.)

Normally I'm in favor of "guilt by association," but in this case I'm
not. It's just convenient but irrelevant facts. (i.e. "Jeff Epstein
drank Bud Light all the time.")

Let it play out... I heard an Obama Judge stopped Trump from releasing the Grand Jury info... They'll have to take it to a higher court.

I was also heard that people who gave testimony during that time can object because of the fact that they didn't know that their statements were going to be made public.

DOJ is now in talks with Epstein's GF... Relax roll a fatty.

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IB Joe wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

Let it play out... I heard an Obama Judge stopped Trump from releasing the Grand Jury info... They'll have to take it to a higher court.

The judge has no jurisdition. The SCOTUS already ruled on this. We can just ignore the judges's invalid "ruling" - and remove him from the bench too.

I was also heard that people who gave testimony during that time can object because of the fact that they didn't know that their statements were going to be made public.

"But I was only walking in the middle of a busy road. I didn't think that I'd get run over."

All court testimony is public record. Anyone who claims otherwise is hiding something or a moron.

DOJ is now in talks with Epstein's GF... Relax roll a fatty.

I don't see what she stands to gain here.

If she "spills the beans", she'll be Hillaried. There's still too much corruption here and even the jailers can't be trusted.


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Ron L. wrote to IB Joe <=-

I don't see what she stands to gain here.

If she "spills the beans", she'll be Hillaried. There's still too much corruption here and even the jailers can't be trusted.

Living? If her testimony is going to hurt Trump, she'll be Epstein'ed
in prison. MAGA doesn't care about the rule of law.

If she cuts a deal, implicates democrats and leaves Trump alone, it's
witness tampering, and again, MAGA doesn't care. She gets a pardon, and
gets to spend the rest of her life looking over her shoulder while
pedophile sex traffickers on both sides of the aisle go on with their
lives.

But, I'm sure it beats prison.




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On 24 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...

The judge has no jurisdition. The SCOTUS already ruled on this. We can just ignore the judges's invalid "ruling" - and remove him from the
bench too.

Yes, I now hear that. It's funny that this is not mentioned until Trump talks about releasing the Grand Jury stuff....

Pam Bondi should have just said something publicly... Some witnesses can object... Ghislaine Maxwell has an Appeal in the works... Apparently there are ~ 350,000,000 reasons why those documents can be released.

Now top ranking DOJ officials are in Florida talking to her... Professor Jonathan Turley, constitutional expert, says that this is the first time she's ever been interviewed... ever. WTF, why not.

Either the DOJ want to control what is eventually put out there... or they could just be looking at transparency. I don't know what/who to believe now.

She has been subpoenaed to speak to congress.

She would not speak unless it was in her favor...

BTW, she may be released at some point... Immunity was given to her, and others like her, during the plea deal given to her during the Florida case.

At this point I don't give a sh!t... Cover the names of the innocent victims and release everything... Give Ghislaine a pardon and make it conditional to her speaking to congress and the DOJ honestly and openly about Bill Clinton and Bill Gates.

I don't see what she stands to gain here.

If she "spills the beans", she'll be Hillaried. There's still too much corruption here and even the jailers can't be trusted.

Washington DC is sick... I wonder what the Founding Fathers would say about todays hot mess...

BTW, as an after thought... There are videos surfacing on YouTube where there are Lefties celebrating Hulk Hogan's death... because he was a patriot and a friend of Trumps.

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If she "spills the beans", she'll be Hillaried. There's still too mu corruption here and even the jailers can't be trusted.

Living? If her testimony is going to hurt Trump, she'll be Epstein'ed
in prison. MAGA doesn't care about the rule of law.

When did a Trump witness ever prematurely commit suicide inside a jail before trial? That's TDS taking over your ability to compute.

Remember: It's Democrats who "suicide" witnesses. Also keep in mind: It's us MAGA people who make such conspiracy stories, not you leftie guys.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

Yes, I now hear that. It's funny that this is not mentioned until
Trump talks about releasing the Grand Jury stuff....

Standard Leftie deflect and distract.

Now top ranking DOJ officials are in Florida talking to her...
Professor Jonathan Turley, constitutional expert, says that this is the first time she's ever been interviewed... ever. WTF, why not.

Because they need to keep her on ice.

If she talks, their whole blackmail program will be exposed.
IHMO: That program is far bigger than we imagine.

Either the DOJ want to control what is eventually put out there... or
they could just be looking at transparency. I don't know what/who to believe now.

I think that comes from the leaders of the DOJ that Trump appointed want transparency. But there's still too many Deep State operatives in the ranks who block and distract.

She has been subpoenaed to speak to congress.

She would not speak unless it was in her favor...

And that's a big clue as to what is/was happening.

But where that clue leads is still not clear to me.

At this point I don't give a sh!t... Cover the names of the innocent victims and release everything... Give Ghislaine a pardon and make it conditional to her speaking to congress and the DOJ honestly and openly about Bill Clinton and Bill Gates.

Sounds good to me.

Washington DC is sick... I wonder what the Founding Fathers would say about todays hot mess...

Power corrupts and centers of power attract those who crave power. Our Founding Fathers tried to set up a system where those who crave power would be countered by others who crave power.

I would say that the system worked pretty well. What they didn't take into account was when the cravers of power worked TOGETHER.

BTW, as an after thought... There are videos surfacing on YouTube where there are Lefties celebrating Hulk Hogan's death... because he was a patriot and a friend of Trumps.

It's not just DC that's sick.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

When did a Trump witness ever prematurely commit suicide inside a jail before trial? That's TDS taking over your ability to compute.

Which is why I don't bother even reading his drivel.

Remember: It's Democrats who "suicide" witnesses. Also keep in mind:
It's us MAGA people who make such conspiracy stories, not you leftie
guys.

MAGA make "conspiracy theories" that come true.

The Lefties also make "conspiracy theories" but they never come true and are often mistaken for articles by the Babylon Bee.


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On 26 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Remember: It's Democrats who "suicide" witnesses. Also keep in mind:
It's us MAGA people who make such conspiracy stories, not you leftie
guys.

That's Hillary's MO

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On 26 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...

Because they need to keep her on ice.

If she talks, their whole blackmail program will be exposed.
IHMO: That program is far bigger than we imagine.

There's a lot to unpack here... I have come to the realization that people may not go to jail... The powerful and elites seem to be able to protect themselves... I call this the P. Diddy affect.

I have been leaning to just having the Truth be known. I believe if normal people know the truth they might vote a different way... Focus on policy and stop drinking the Kool-Aide. The people with TDS, never mind TDS... Some here have stag 5... Ozzy had stag 5 Parkinson' disease... Stage 5 TDS will make you walk and talk like BUT your IQ is around AOC's... Some people are too far gone.

At this point I don't give a sh!t... Cover the names of the innocent victims and release everything... Give Ghislaine a pardon and make it conditional to her speaking to congress and the DOJ honestly and open about Bill Clinton and Bill Gates.

Sounds good to me.

My comments here are premised by the Russia Russia Hoax and The Epstein Files, among other things.

MTG made a Social Media post the other day where she stated "Enough is Enough"... The base is getting tired of all these names linked to all these "situations" and no arrests are being made.

She has a valid point. I don't think we need to rush into anything... This is far from rushing... Take someone down... Start with Adam Schiff mortgage fraud... DEAL with that and add more things as needed... START somewhere... NY's AG on mortgage fraud as well... START somewhere...

Then you can get Hillary to flip and turn on Barry...

That's it I think

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When did a Trump witness ever prematurely commit suicide inside a jai before trial? That's TDS taking over your ability to compute.

Which is why I don't bother even reading his drivel.

I knew that you wouldn't, and I don't blame you, but that's why I replied to him. But we both know what leftists do when they're faced with reality, so that will be the end of it for him.

It's us MAGA people who make such conspiracy stories, not you leftie guys.

MAGA make "conspiracy theories" that come true.

*Possibility theory

The Lefties also make "conspiracy theories" but they never come true and are often mistaken for articles by the Babylon Bee.

Right. While we're using logic to discuss realistic explanations for things, these guys are letting media personalities handle the discussion part for them, that way all they have to do is parrot whatever the media personalities said.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

There's a lot to unpack here... I have come to the realization that
people may not go to jail... The powerful and elites seem to be able
to protect themselves... I call this the P. Diddy affect.

There are much worse ways to hurt Elitists than put them in jail.

"The Best Way To Hurt Rich People Is To Turn Them Into Poor People."
- Trading Places

Or in the case of the Elitists, make them poor and powerless.

I have been leaning to just having the Truth be known. I believe if normal people know the truth they might vote a different way... Focus
on policy and stop drinking the Kool-Aide.

I think the majority of the population does that now. And we will probably get more Stage 1 TDS people over time.

mind TDS... Some here have stag 5... Ozzy had stag 5 Parkinson'
disease... Stage 5 TDS will make you walk and talk like BUT your IQ is around AOC's... Some people are too far gone.

They've never had to think for themselves. Their brains have atrophied to the point where they can't think for themselves.

MTG made a Social Media post the other day where she stated "Enough is Enough"... The base is getting tired of all these names linked to all these "situations" and no arrests are being made.

She's right on the mark for that. We have been seeing Leftists blatently commit crimes since 2019 and no arrests. The public's faith in the justice system is waning fast.

She has a valid point. I don't think we need to rush into anything... This is far from rushing... Take someone down... Start with Adam Schiff mortgage fraud... DEAL with that and add more things as needed... START somewhere... NY's AG on mortgage fraud as well... START somewhere...

And I think that's the root of the lack or arrests:
1. Lack of hard evidence - but that seems to be clearing up.
2. Getting a judge that isn't part of the Deep State to hear the case.

Then you can get Hillary to flip and turn on Barry...

I doubt that will happen. They have too much power still. But there are other ways to get them.

Ex: Osama might have had Presidential Immunity while in office, but that doesn't protect his underlings.

Start with the lower level people where we can get irrefutable proof, convict then deal to get them to rat out the next level above them. And so forth.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

I knew that you wouldn't, and I don't blame you, but that's why I
replied to him. But we both know what leftists do when they're faced
with reality, so that will be the end of it for him.

It will never be the end of it for him. But we could always hope he fades away because no one replies to him.

Right. While we're using logic to discuss realistic explanations for things, these guys are letting media personalities handle the
discussion part for them, that way all they have to do is parrot
whatever the media personalities said.

Well, they can't think for themselves and they have been conditioned to trust the 'experts'. So they plunk themselves in front of their programmer every morning to be told what to think.


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Ron L. wrote to IB Joe <=-

She's right on the mark for that. We have been seeing Leftists
blatently commit crimes since 2019 and no arrests. The public's faith
in the justice system is waning fast.

Since long before then. If you can really isolate one political party
for corruption without acknowledging the other party's many, many
crimes left untouched, you need to realize.

It's not left/right. It's rich/poor. It's win/lose.

Take a step back and look at the big picture. You'll see it more
clearly. As clearly as on inauguration day, when Trump had billionaires
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On 27 Jul 2025, Ron L. said the following...

I doubt that will happen. They have too much power still. But there
are other ways to get them.

Ex: Osama might have had Presidential Immunity while in office, but that doesn't protect his underlings.

Start with the lower level people where we can get irrefutable proof, convict then deal to get them to rat out the next level above them. And so forth.

I have sat here for a few days watching pundits and talking heads go on about how Barry is immune to prosecution due to the Supreme Court decision, re DJT case.

If what they say they have, and apparently there is more coming, why wouldn't he stand trial for what is alleged.

There has been 250 years of president as to how the political system worked. Worked in theory or practice... I understand the goodwill that was given to the process in the past, we were once a shinny city on a hill.

We went from having Presidents like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy and Trump... There are dozens and dozens more... Spectacular people doing the peoples business.

I have talked about this recently... People use to vote policies. Take a look at JFK's election... or Nixon's or Regan's... During one of Regan's election he won all but 1 state, Minnesota... can you imagine that... If I recall correctly Nixon was one of the most popular presidents ever, well in my lifetime anyways... Trump would have, and still can maybe, crush that popularity if he's given the room to do so. Tricky Dick was crushed buy Watergate and the rest is history.

Barry comes along and starts his left-wing commie Cultural Marxism and our country is divided more than ever... My view is recent... we might have been more divided during the civil war era... I'm sure there are other times.

We went from all getting along, for the most part, to not talking to some family members because of TDS.

We use to have a "reasonable" media, well one worthy of a 1st Amendment. To this sh!t show. We are sooooooooooooooo blessed that Trump has exposed these actors and it looks like most of them are now failing. CNN and MSDNC are being sold and idiots like Stephan Colbert will take a program like The Late Show and drive it into the ground.

There is soooooooooooo much here. I think all these actors need to see the justice system. I understand that nothing may come of it... Activist Judges and whatnot... BUT the TRUTH at the least needs to be presented.

I think the house and the Senate should vote to sanction Barry, the concept of Impeachment was stupid when they tried to impeach Trump when he was out of office. If what they are saying happened this should be in the history books and his name tarnished for ever.

I am not saying this as a partisan but rather a citizen... This needs to be corrected.

@RonL, you don't have to respond... This was therapy for me.

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IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

I have sat here for a few days watching pundits and talking heads go on about how Barry is immune to prosecution due to the Supreme Court decision, re DJT case.

Copium. Presidential Immunity is only for official acts. Once the Russia Hoax is proven in court, Immunity is gone since what he did was not an official Presidential act.

Sort of like Osama robbing a bank at gunpoint and then claiming "Presidential Immunity."

There has been 250 years of president as to how the political system worked. Worked in theory or practice... I understand the goodwill that was given to the process in the past, we were once a shinny city on a hill.

But the Elitists have been trying to destroy this country for 100 of those years.

Tricky Dick was crushed buy Watergate and the rest is history.

And so we have to ask now, "Was Watergate staged?"
Based on the information we have so far, there's a good chance that it was.

Barry comes along and starts his left-wing commie Cultural Marxism and
our country is divided more than ever... My view is recent... we might have been more divided during the civil war era... I'm sure there are other times.

The division has been there for a long time. The Elitists have been corrupting our schools and media, slowly, quietly for decades now. They've produced people who are, effectively, robots and are not able to think for themselves - yet live in a fantasy where they are the smartest ones.

We went from all getting along, for the most part, to not talking to
some family members because of TDS.

But that didn't happen overnight. It simply got worse under Osama.

We use to have a "reasonable" media, well one worthy of a 1st
Amendment.

We haven't had that since the 1940s. It simply got blatent in the mid 2010's.

failing. CNN and MSDNC are being sold and idiots like Stephan Colbert will take a program like The Late Show and drive it into the ground.

The Left ruins everything it touches. That's been the case since the USSR.

There is soooooooooooo much here. I think all these actors need to see the justice system. I understand that nothing may come of it...
Activist Judges and whatnot... BUT the TRUTH at the least needs to be presented.

One way or another, we will never know the truth. We may get glimpses, but we will never have all the facts. At least not in our lifetime.


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