• Re: Trump says he's 'not

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed May 28 07:18:48 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

    You need to read some more, you know nothing about this conflict.

    Take your own advice

    Remember what I said before:

    Most people come here with an attitude of "I think I'm right, but let's discuss this because I might be wrong."

    People like Alex come here with an attitude of "I know I'm right and I need to tell you that you are wrong."

    Alex will never read anything his masters don't tell him to because he's deathly afraid that he will read something that will show that he's not the Elitist that he believes he is.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Wed May 28 13:16:11 2025
    On 28 May 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Most people come here with an attitude of "I think I'm right, but let's discuss this because I might be wrong."

    People like Alex come here with an attitude of "I know I'm right and I need to tell you that you are wrong."


    I know, I have read his work... and I have responded to it as well. My best response I have ever made to him was done today... a 1-2 punch with facts took care of his ideas.


    Alex will never read anything his masters don't tell him to because he's deathly afraid that he will read something that will show that he's not the Elitist that he believes he is.


    He should have learned... Joe Biden has prostate cancer because he was a useful idiot of the left and as well he was Barry's finger puppet for the past dozen or so years. Mike may have been the puppet master as well... this is based on seeing his pod-casts of recent times.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Thu May 29 07:58:56 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I know, I have read his work... and I have responded to it as well. My best response I have ever made to him was done today... a 1-2 punch
    with facts took care of his ideas.

    But Alex is completely up to date on his fact vaccines. Facts don't matter to people who can't think for themselves.

    He should have learned... Joe Biden has prostate cancer because he was
    a useful idiot of the left and as well he was Barry's finger puppet for the past dozen or so years. Mike may have been the puppet master as well... this is based on seeing his pod-casts of recent times.

    I don't believe that any of the people we see/hear are "masters" in anyway.

    They are the useful idiots for the masters. I'm willing to bet that if someone listed off the names of the actual people pulling the strings, the names would mean nothing to most people.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Thu May 29 08:54:32 2025
    On 29 May 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    But Alex is completely up to date on his fact vaccines. Facts don't matter to people who can't think for themselves.


    I think his hair went on fire when I rebutted with facts... The Democrats use to be the party of No Wars... Now they want one everywhere... They use to be the working class party... and now there's nothing but Elites and policies no one likes.


    They are the useful idiots for the masters. I'm willing to bet that if someone listed off the names of the actual people pulling the strings,
    the names would mean nothing to most people.


    Democrats are now begging Obama to shut TF up and go away... Maybe they can turn some things around before the mid-terms.

    But then again with Trump approval ratings are through the roof and are at levels no one has ever seen before. It might just be too late for them.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Thu May 29 18:38:18 2025


    Democrats are now begging Obama to shut TF up and go away... Maybe they can turn some things around before the mid-terms.

    I recently learned that Obama still lives in DC. He was born in Kenya, grew up in Hawaii, then moved to Chicago, and now, of all places, he wants to live in DC all this time?

    I've been to DC a few times. It's not a nice place to be. What's he doing there? hmmmmmmm

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri May 30 08:04:44 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    On 29 May 2025, Ron L. said the following...

    But Alex is completely up to date on his fact vaccines. Facts don't matter to people who can't think for themselves.

    I think his hair went on fire when I rebutted with facts... The
    Democrats use to be the party of No Wars... Now they want one everywhere... They use to be the working class party... and now
    there's nothing but Elites and policies no one likes.

    Trump is playing them like a fiddle. The Dems keep putting themselves on the wrong side of every question.

    I think we'll see a blood bath in the mid-terms as the Dems are voted out across the country.

    Democrats are now begging Obama to shut TF up and go away... Maybe they can turn some things around before the mid-terms.

    I doubt it.

    But then again with Trump approval ratings are through the roof and are
    at levels no one has ever seen before. It might just be too late for them.

    I'm hoping it's too late. I'm hoping that the mid-terms are so bad that the party collapses. Then we can focus on the Republican Party.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri May 30 08:04:44 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    I recently learned that Obama still lives in DC. He was born in Kenya, grew up in Hawaii, then moved to Chicago, and now, of all places, he
    wants to live in DC all this time?

    I thought he and Big Mike lived on the Left Coast, in a gated mansion.

    Or does he just "maintain a residence" in DC?

    I've been to DC a few times. It's not a nice place to be. What's he
    doing there? hmmmmmmm

    The same thing all Elitists do: Subvert the will of the people.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri May 30 08:50:24 2025
    I recently learned that Obama still lives in DC. He was born in Kenya grew up in Hawaii, then moved to Chicago, and now, of all places, he wants to live in DC all this time?

    I thought he and Big Mike lived on the Left Coast, in a gated mansion.

    The media seems to imply that he lives in DC. They don't say why though, but we know why. It's so Barry can chat with the members of the senate and the house about things whenever George needs him to.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Fri May 30 10:51:24 2025
    On 29 May 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I recently learned that Obama still lives in DC. He was born in Kenya, grew up in Hawaii, then moved to Chicago, and now, of all places, he
    wants to live in DC all this time?

    I've been to DC a few times. It's not a nice place to be. What's he doing there? hmmmmmmm


    https://youtu.be/dOP5Y9OUJyk?si=Bi_PYeEaT9vXPHiy

    Enjoy!!!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri May 30 10:56:10 2025
    On 30 May 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Trump is playing them like a fiddle. The Dems keep putting themselves
    on the wrong side of every question.

    I think we'll see a blood bath in the mid-terms as the Dems are voted out across the country.


    Agreed


    Democrats are now begging Obama to shut TF up and go away... Maybe th can turn some things around before the mid-terms.

    I doubt it.


    I remain hopeful... I think there's Obama Fatigue...


    I'm hoping it's too late. I'm hoping that the mid-terms are so bad that the party collapses. Then we can focus on the Republican Party.


    Go Red Team!!!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Fri May 30 13:30:42 2025
    I recently learned that Obama still lives in DC. He was born in Kenya grew up in Hawaii, then moved to Chicago, and now, of all places, he wants to live in DC all this time?

    I've been to DC a few times. It's not a nice place to be. What's he d there? hmmmmmmm


    https://youtu.be/dOP5Y9OUJyk?si=Bi_PYeEaT9vXPHiy

    That youtuber is correct about the social security numbers. People in NY have numbers that start with 1. For Pennsylvanians it starts with 2. In New Mexico it starts with 5. Permanent residents inherit it from the state they were processed in, so it makes no sense for Obama's SSN to start with a 0, unless
    he came to Connecticut as a permanent resident.

    I've also said all along that it makes no sense for a person, especially a US senator, to be unable to provide their birth certificate when requested.

    "Wait until after I'm a senator for a few years, then wait until after I'm president for 8 years, and then I'll show you my birth certificate to prove that I'm a US citizen."

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Fri May 30 14:46:24 2025
    On 30 May 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    That youtuber is correct about the social security numbers. People in NY have numbers that start with 1. For Pennsylvanians it starts with 2. In New Mexico it starts with 5. Permanent residents inherit it from the
    state they were processed in, so it makes no sense for Obama's SSN to start with a 0, unless he came to Connecticut as a permanent resident.

    I've also said all along that it makes no sense for a person, especially
    a US senator, to be unable to provide their birth certificate when requested.

    "Wait until after I'm a senator for a few years, then wait until after
    I'm president for 8 years, and then I'll show you my birth certificate
    to prove that I'm a US citizen."


    Yup... I view my daughter Amanda as an American... BUT she wasn't born in the US there will be a few things she can't do.... and that is be President.

    I can't get her to make her own bed so this maybe a good thing....

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat May 31 08:45:01 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The media seems to imply that he lives in DC. They don't say why
    though, but we know why. It's so Barry can chat with the members of the senate and the house about things whenever George needs him to.

    Very probably. But as we've seen from Shifty Shiff and Laticia James, they "identify" with whatever residency gets them the best benefit. And having 2 "primary" residences is just fine - for the Elitists.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sat May 31 08:45:01 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I remain hopeful... I think there's Obama Fatigue...

    I had Osama fatigue before his first campaign was over.

    But some people still think he's the second coming of Christ.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Sat May 31 08:43:08 2025
    in the US there will be a few things she can't do.... and that is be President.

    I can't get her to make her own bed so this maybe a good thing....

    I'd like to have Elon Musk for president, but the Democrats are to anti-immigrant for that to happen.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat May 31 08:57:12 2025
    Very probably. But as we've seen from Shifty Shiff and Laticia James, they "identify" with whatever residency gets them the best benefit. And having 2 "primary" residences is just fine - for the Elitists.

    I have property in 2 different counties, and I'll admit that I tried to benefit from it:

    My local rep (where I live) refused to give me tickets to Trump's inauguration, so I tried to get them from my rep in the other county, and she (Elise Stefanik) just ignored me. (What's worse? Get told "no" or get ignored?)

    But Obama is benefiting from it by playing God. That's worse. And Leticia James did it for financial gain, which is also way worse.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sat May 31 11:16:30 2025
    On 31 May 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    I had Osama fatigue before his first campaign was over.

    But some people still think he's the second coming of Christ.


    I'm not sure history will hold Barry in a positive light. This whole Auto-Pen thing is going to blowup. Once the underlings start to get pressure they'll gladly start throwing those in charge under the bus.

    If Hillary was involved people will kill themselves.

    Barry needs to move out of Washington and tell Mike to Shut TF Up.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sat May 31 11:26:11 2025
    On 31 May 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I'd like to have Elon Musk for president, but the Democrats are to anti-immigrant for that to happen.


    Elon cannot be President because he wasn't a naturally born citizen.... Oooohhh but wait... Elon can photo shop his birth certificate and lie about everything.

    We need Elon out in the world being creative so that we can colonize the moon and Mars.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Sat May 31 18:16:11 2025
    I'd like to have Elon Musk for president, but the Democrats are to anti-immigrant for that to happen.


    Elon cannot be President because he wasn't a naturally born citizen.... Oooohhh but wait... Elon can photo shop his birth certificate and lie about everything.

    I appreciate the guy. Think about it: aside from Trump, who's done more for our country?

    And he's got the money to get the show on the road too. That's a plus.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 1 10:10:08 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I'm not sure history will hold Barry in a positive light. This whole Auto-Pen thing is going to blowup. Once the underlings start to get pressure they'll gladly start throwing those in charge under the bus.

    That's the hope. But it's like the Mafia. You keep your mouth shut no matter what because their reach is LONG. Ex: Epstein.

    If Hillary was involved people will kill themselves.

    Only if they threaten to squeel.

    Barry needs to move out of Washington and tell Mike to Shut TF Up.

    Like most gay marriages, they break up over time. Big Mike is now his own man.
    If he gets close to telling the truth in a way that people will believe him, you can be that he'll be Hillaried.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Jun 1 11:53:39 2025
    On 31 May 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    I appreciate the guy. Think about it: aside from Trump, who's done more for our country?


    And he's got the money to get the show on the road too. That's a plus.


    No one has done more for the world than Elon. Let him focus on colonizing
    the moon and Mars. Start saving Bitcoin so that you are ready to move the family.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Sun Jun 1 12:11:30 2025
    On 01 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    That's the hope. But it's like the Mafia. You keep your mouth shut no matter what because their reach is LONG. Ex: Epstein.


    Dan was on Fox a few days ago say that they found a room full of Crossfire Hurricane stuff. Comey, Hillary and Orr... the Wife who worked for Fusion GPS... Bla Bla Bla... could be all BS... but if people strangely start committing suicide you know they are getting close to Hillary.

    BTW, Trump released a video talking about JFK Jr's sudden death making way for Hillary to win the NY Senator position...

    Interesting.... 70 or so people later...


    Like most gay marriages, they break up over time. Big Mike is now his
    own man. If he gets close to telling the truth in a way that people
    will believe him, you can be that he'll be Hillaried.


    HAHAHA... The democratic party is soooooooooooo dramatic... Kind of like the WNBA today!!!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Sun Jun 1 16:27:33 2025
    And he's got the money to get the show on the road too. That's a plus


    No one has done more for the world than Elon. Let him focus on
    colonizing the moon and Mars. Start saving Bitcoin so that you are
    ready to move the family.

    Side note: I have long suspected the left of having plans to put themselves on a space colony. It would explain people like Bruce Springsteen and Robert DeNiro. They're sucking up to the world elite with hopes of getting a room in some futuristic compound.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 2 07:15:30 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Dan was on Fox a few days ago say that they found a room full of
    Crossfire Hurricane stuff. Comey, Hillary and Orr... the Wife who
    worked for Fusion GPS... Bla Bla Bla... could be all BS... but if
    people strangely start committing suicide you know they are getting
    close to Hillary.

    "I am not suicidal" is not a meme, that's for sure.

    BTW, Trump released a video talking about JFK Jr's sudden death making
    way for Hillary to win the NY Senator position...

    Interesting.... 70 or so people later...

    The Elitists play the long game.

    IMHO: I think that's why they hate Trump so much. Many of these Elitists have been working for most of their lives to put this plan together. Then Trump threatens to tear it apart and set them back generations.

    That wouldn't be a big problem but most of the Elitists never trained their "successor" so they pushed their plan to hard, too fast and exposed themselves.

    HAHAHA... The democratic party is soooooooooooo dramatic... Kind of
    like the WNBA today!!!

    They both lack self-awareness. They both think that they know what people want. And they are both staffed by complete morons.


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jun 2 07:15:30 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to IB Joe <=-

    Side note: I have long suspected the left of having plans to put themselves on a space colony. It would explain people like Bruce Springsteen and Robert DeNiro. They're sucking up to the world elite
    with hopes of getting a room in some futuristic compound.

    Reminds me of The Simpson's where the world is about to be destroyed and they are taking all the people off in rockets. Homer and Bart are left behind, but find another rocket that "no one is guarding". So they sneak a board only to find that it's filled with the most useless people and the rocket is heading toward the Sun.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jun 2 05:38:05 2025
    Side note: I have long suspected the left of having plans to put themselves on a space colony. It would explain people like Bruce Springsteen and Robert DeNiro. They're sucking up to the world elite with hopes of getting a room in some futuristic compound.

    Reminds me of The Simpson's where the world is about to be destroyed and they are taking all the people off in rockets. Homer and Bart are left behind, but find another rocket that "no one is guarding". So they
    sneak a board only to find that it's filled with the most useless people and the rocket is heading toward the Sun.

    That almost confirms my suspicion. The elite probably think it's funny to give us subtle clues about things.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 2 14:56:53 2025
    Am 01 Jun 25 11:53:39 schrob IB Joe an Aaron Thomas zum Thema
    <Re: Trump says he's 'not>

    No one has done more for the world than Elon.

    What for example? He promised that in 2014 cars wouldn't need drivers anymore and that he'd be taking tourists to Mars in 2024. So, what did he do apart from promising stuff that never happened?

    This guy did a great job:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSFbWObcT4A

    He made this video in 2022 about the "Tesler" that is losing parts while driving.

    Actually, Musk had one big success, indeed. He sold a car to someone who's not allowed to drive. But the guy who bought it was still happy, because it was "all computer". But other people are a lot better at selling stuff, for example companies who sell sand to people living in a sand desert. ;-)



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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jun 2 08:14:30 2025
    On 01 Jun 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Side note: I have long suspected the left of having plans to put themselves on a space colony. It would explain people like Bruce Springsteen and Robert DeNiro. They're sucking up to the world elite
    with hopes of getting a room in some futuristic compound.


    Some people are sick. If there was anyone in the world, at one time, who was anti-establishment was Howard Stern... Now that he's older and filthy rich he wants to virtue signal with his wealthy buddies.

    Bruce Springsteen use to write music for the common people now he's speaking for the elites and the wealthy.

    Elon needs to narrow who he lets on Mars... Like the "No Soup For You" guy on Seinfeld.

    I can't wait to see what the Mars Trump Tower will look like.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Mon Jun 2 09:03:47 2025
    On 02 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    The Elitists play the long game.

    IMHO: I think that's why they hate Trump so much. Many of these
    Elitists have been working for most of their lives to put this plan together. Then Trump threatens to tear it apart and set them back generations.

    That wouldn't be a big problem but most of the Elitists never trained their "successor" so they pushed their plan to hard, too fast and
    exposed themselves.


    Its like a 5D chess game... I think Trump has stirred the pot too much. I think the Elites have NO CLUE how to combat this.

    Bill Clinton in the news trying to get ahead of this Auto-Pen and who was actually running the government. To be honest, I'm not sure we'd be talking about this if Trump wasn't in office... I could just imagine what a RINO would be saying.

    Tampon Tim is telling Democrats to be meaner... Like there isn't enough division in todays politics. I say... Tim... Just tell us your policies and argue those points. If the American people think your ideas are better they'll vote for you.

    My observation... I think the last time someone voted for the "man" and not the party was Regan... Regan once won all states but Minnesota... Other's did this as well in the past.

    I know that the Democrats are sick right now with their Trans-gender this and that... They care more about illegals that actual citizens... The list goes on...

    Trump needs to be like a Democrat and exploit these current issues... Joe Biden's Auto-Pen and the Terror Attacks... Use the Terror attacks to ramp up deportations of criminals.

    This weekend event in Colorado could have been anywhere in the US.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Jun 2 09:16:46 2025
    On 02 Jun 2025, Gerhard Strangar said the following...


    No one has done more for the world than Elon.

    What for example? He promised that in 2014 cars wouldn't need drivers


    He co-founded PayPal
    He founded SpaceX
    He revolutionized the electric car industry
    He created OpenAI
    He co-founded Neuralink
    He instituted the Big Falcon Rocket
    His Crew Dragon spacecraft transported astronauts to the ISS
    He provided internet to Ukraine during Russia's invasion
    He was named the world’s richest person

    I got tired of listing his achievements... I clipped the above from a top 30.

    Here's a link to the top 10

    https://www.havefunwithhistory.com/elon-musk-accomplishments/

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to All on Mon Jun 2 12:33:48 2025
    Hello All!

    Monday June 02 2025 09:16, IB Joe wrote to Gerhard Strangar:

    He co-founded PayPal
    And he suggested to use Windows servers instead of Linux for all the transactions. =)))))))))))))

    He founded SpaceX
    Using government money.

    He revolutionized the electric car industry
    He paid two smart guys to design Tesla and took their names off of the list. =)))
    Tesla still sucks as a car.

    He created OpenAI
    No he did NOT, he was just a co-founder for money. =)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 2 10:36:14 2025
    Some people are sick. If there was anyone in the world, at one time,
    who was anti-establishment was Howard Stern... Now that he's older and filthy rich he wants to virtue signal with his wealthy buddies.

    Certainly there's a room in the blueprints for Howard Stern. How would their "new world" possibly function without him? <jk>

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Aaron Thomas on Mon Jun 2 12:39:21 2025
    On 02 Jun 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Certainly there's a room in the blueprints for Howard Stern. How would their "new world" possibly function without him? <jk>


    And it doesn't stop there... Bruce Springsteen was a working mans band and now he snuggles up with the Elites.

    We live in opposite world.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Mon Jun 2 14:40:28 2025
    And it doesn't stop there... Bruce Springsteen was a working mans band
    and now he snuggles up with the Elites.

    We live in opposite world.

    It's common for people to forget where they came from.

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  • From LEE GREEN@1:102/401 to Gerhard Strangar on Mon Jun 2 20:14:50 2025
    Am 01 Jun 25 11:53:39 schrob IB Joe an Aaron Thomas zum Thema
    <Re: Trump says he's 'not>

    No one has done more for the world than Elon.

    What for example? He promised that in 2014 cars wouldn't need drivers anymore
    and that he'd be taking tourists to Mars in 2024. So, what did he do apart from
    promising stuff that never happened?

    He was talking about the self driving Teslas in 2013 and they were made
    in 2016, how about the reusuable rocket ship that lands back on it's
    launch pad saving millions of dollars, or the boring co making
    underground roads for less traffic and rails, saved tons of $ for
    USA with Doge. I'm sure he's about ready to go to mars and inhabit it.

    What have you done lately besides spew nonsense?


    This guy did a great job:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSFbWObcT4A

    He made this video in 2022 about the "Tesler" that is losing parts while driving.

    Actually, Musk had one big success, indeed. He sold a car to someone who's not
    allowed to drive. But the guy who bought it was still happy, because it was "all computer". But other people are a lot better at selling stuff, for example
    companies who sell sand to people living in a sand desert. ;-)



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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 3 07:35:43 2025
    Am 02 Jun 25 09:16:46 schrob IB Joe an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Trump says he's 'not>

    No one has done more for the world than Elon.
    What for example?
    He co-founded PayPal
    He founded SpaceX
    He revolutionized the electric car industry
    He created OpenAI
    He co-founded Neuralink
    He instituted the Big Falcon Rocket
    His Crew Dragon spacecraft transported astronauts to the ISS
    He provided internet to Ukraine during Russia's invasion

    Founding a company isn't an achievement.
    In Europe Paypal requires a having bank account (which comes with free wire transfer service) and Paypal adds something like wire-transfert, but it charges for this service. It might be more interesting in a country where banks don't offer any service.
    SpaceX did some nice fireworks, but apart from that? Wernherr von Braun was the first person to ever launch a rocket in 1942, that's an achievement. NASA brought men to the moon and back, that's an achievement.

    How did he revolutionize the electric car industry? I'm pretty sure you mean something that Terpenning or Eberhard came up with.

    How exactly did "the world" benefit from OpenAI, Neuralink and what did the Big Falcon Rocket have that Space Shuttle and Buran did not? Taking people to a space station is something the Soviets already did in 1986.

    I have too little knowledge about staellite Internet in Ukraine, but in Germany you could get satellite Internet by SkyDSL in 1999.

    He was named the world's richest person

    So, something he has "done for the world" is taking money from others? I'd call this a personal success, but not an achievement for the world.

    I aussume the other achievements you didn't list included reeinventing the subway with carriages that capacity of which is only five people.



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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to LEE GREEN on Tue Jun 3 07:54:35 2025
    Am 02 Jun 25 20:14:50 schrob LEE GREEN an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Trump says he's 'not>

    He was talking about the self driving Teslas in 2013 and they were made
    in 2016,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot
    "Since 2013, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has repeatedly predicted that the company would achieve fully autonomous driving (SAE Level 5) within one to three years,[2][3] but these goals have not been met."

    He was talking about Level 5, a system that does not need any human at all. Tesla does have Level 2. And while Musk keeps promising Level 5, you can already buy a Honda or a Mercedes with Level 3.

    how about the reusuable rocket ship that lands back on it's
    launch pad saving millions of dollars,

    NASA already reused the Space Shuttle and the boosters in 1981.



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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 3 07:18:29 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Its like a 5D chess game... I think Trump has stirred the pot too much.
    I think the Elites have NO CLUE how to combat this.

    That's because they are certain that they are right and have no self-awareness.
    So they the idea that they need to change their policies never enters their heads.

    Bill Clinton in the news trying to get ahead of this Auto-Pen and who
    was actually running the government. To be honest, I'm not sure we'd
    be talking about this if Trump wasn't in office... I could just imagine what a RINO would be saying.

    The Propaganda Ministry is digging hard to find anyone who has something positive to say. Not even members of their own party have much good to say today.

    Tampon Tim is telling Democrats to be meaner... Like there isn't enough division in todays politics. I say... Tim... Just tell us your
    policies and argue those points. If the American people think your
    ideas are better they'll vote for you.

    The policies of the Democrat party are anti-american. And Trump is masterfully making the Democrats say it.

    And the Dems know it, which is why Tampon Tim (who is really just a mouthpiece anyway) has no policies (that he's allowed to say publically).

    I know that the Democrats are sick right now with their Trans-gender
    this and that... They care more about illegals that actual citizens...
    The list goes on...

    That's what I mean by Trump making the Dems actaually say it, other than their usual "say something nice but do the opposite" that they have always done.

    Even many of the Leftists are moving away from the toxic sludge that the Dems have become.

    Trump needs to be like a Democrat and exploit these current issues...
    Joe Biden's Auto-Pen and the Terror Attacks... Use the Terror attacks
    to ramp up deportations of criminals.

    I think he's going just that. We'll see what happens with that bill currently going through Congress that reigns in the activist judges.

    This weekend event in Colorado could have been anywhere in the US.

    Yup. And here in Michigan, we have a large muslim population, so this is on my mind.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GERHARD STRANGAR on Tue Jun 3 10:40:00 2025
    SpaceX did some nice fireworks, but apart from that? Wernherr von Braun was th
    first person to ever launch a rocket in 1942, that's an achievement. NASA brought men to the moon and back, that's an achievement.

    Indeed.

    How did he revolutionize the electric car industry? I'm pretty sure you mean something that Terpenning or Eberhard came up with.

    From what I can tell, the only vehicle that Musk might have had a hand in creating was the eyesore of a truck.

    He was named the world's richest person

    So, something he has "done for the world" is taking money from others? I'd cal
    this a personal success, but not an achievement for the world.

    A lot of people don't understand that "being rich" doesn't necessarily
    equate to anything beyond "being rich."


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gerhard Strangar on Tue Jun 3 09:11:23 2025
    On 03 Jun 2025, Gerhard Strangar said the following...


    So, something he has "done for the world" is taking money from others?
    I'd call this a personal success, but not an achievement for the world.


    Give us a list of things you've done that has changed the world...

    Space X, Elon's company, sent a rocket ship to space to rescue stranded people...

    You go next!!!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Tue Jun 3 09:22:24 2025
    On 03 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    And the Dems know it, which is why Tampon Tim (who is really just a mouthpiece anyway) has no policies (that he's allowed to say publically).


    I heard a great analysis on this... Recall Tampon T saying that the Democrats should bully Trump... This is not the case. Trump is not the Sun and everything doesn't revolve around him. The Democrats for fight for the people of the US and not fight Trump. To combat Trump they should do so with Policies and not division.

    Though there are "Trump" hats out there. Trump's message is to put America first and to Make America Great Again...

    Democrats drink Margaritas with MS13 gang members...

    BTW, Bill Clinton didn't come out willingly... Hillary was making eye contact with Bill while simultaneously smacking her right fist into her left palm.

    Bill doesn't want to be #70, whatever, of Hillary's body count.

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Mike Powell on Tue Jun 3 19:48:43 2025
    Am 03 Jun 25 10:40:00 schrob Mike Powell an GERHARD STRANGAR zum Thema
    <Re: Trump says he's 'not>

    From what I can tell, the only vehicle that Musk might have had a hand in creating was the eyesore of a truck.

    I'd love to know what was wrong with the windows. When he wanted to demonstrate that the metal ball doesn't harm the window, he could have done it with any car, there's nothing special about it. Yet still, it failed on the Tesla.



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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to IB Joe on Tue Jun 3 19:53:47 2025
    Am 03 Jun 25 09:11:23 schrob IB Joe an Gerhard Strangar zum Thema
    <Re: Trump says he's 'not>

    Give us a list of things you've done that has changed the world...

    I never pretended I had done that.



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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 4 03:12:16 2025
    Hello IB!

    Tuesday June 03 2025 09:11, you wrote to Gerhard Strangar:

    Give us a list of things you've done that has changed the world...
    - Internet (California, gay people)
    - E-mail (California, gay people)
    - iPhones (California, gay people)

    What have you done, the rednecks? Coal mines? Hating everyone? The wars?
    What have you done, besides f**king up the world everytime you get power? Pieces of sh*ts, primates.

    Alex

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 4 07:14:45 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I heard a great analysis on this... Recall Tampon T saying that the Democrats should bully Trump... This is not the case. Trump is not the Sun and everything doesn't revolve around him.

    But the Dementors can't see that. They have a hivemind and can't comprehend a world of individuals who can think for themselves. That's why they constantly project on to others.

    The Democrats for fight
    for the people of the US and not fight Trump.

    Today's Democrats are not for the people. They are for themselves and the Elitists.

    To combat Trump they
    should do so with Policies and not division.

    Division is all they have - a policy left over from when they had a love-fest with Hitler and Musssolini before WWII.

    They have no policies that are good for the people, so they can't run on those.
    And we've soooo many examples of what they say their policies will do, only to find that they do the exact opposite.

    BTW, Bill Clinton didn't come out willingly... Hillary was making eye contact with Bill while simultaneously smacking her right fist into her left palm.

    Bill doesn't want to be #70, whatever, of Hillary's body count.

    I can't fault a guy for self-preservation.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GERHARD STRANGAR on Wed Jun 4 07:52:00 2025
    From what I can tell, the only vehicle that Musk might have had a hand in creating was the eyesore of a truck.

    I'd love to know what was wrong with the windows. When he wanted to demonstrat
    that the metal ball doesn't harm the window, he could have done it with any car, there's nothing special about it. Yet still, it failed on the Tesla.

    Yes, I have not heard any more about the "why" on that one. All I know is
    that he thought it wouldn't fail but it did. ;)


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Gerhard Strangar on Wed Jun 4 09:59:59 2025
    On 03 Jun 2025, Gerhard Strangar said the following...


    I never pretended I had done that.


    There are some people soooooooooooooooo critical on Musk I just think its odd when asked about your contribution to better mankind people get quiet...

    Except for Alex... He doubles down

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Wed Jun 4 10:15:25 2025
    On 04 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...


    Give us a list of things you've done that has changed the world...
    - Internet (California, gay people)
    - E-mail (California, gay people)
    - iPhones (California, gay people)


    Alex, I didn't ask what your community did I asked what you have done.


    What have you done, the rednecks? Coal mines? Hating everyone? The wars? What have you done, besides f**king up the world everytime you get power? Pieces of sh*ts, primates.


    Rednecks have done a lot. and you are a bitter man.

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  • From Dr. What@1:342/200 to IB Joe on Thu Jun 5 04:25:26 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-

    Alex, I didn't ask what your community did I asked what you have done.

    He's done nothing.

    Like all Dementors, he's completely useless and if he wasn't getting money from an NGO, he's have to be working mopping floors, because that's the only job he's qualified to do.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Thu Jun 5 10:28:27 2025
    On 04 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

    What have you done, the rednecks? Coal mines? Hating everyone? The wars? What have you done, besides f**king up the world everytime you get power? Pieces of sh*ts, primates.


    I would consider myself an academic... Though I know and prefer to have Rednecks have my back....

    https://x.com/IBJOE/status/1930677348908638534

    I posted a relevant meme today that covers this topic.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Dr. What on Thu Jun 5 10:37:35 2025
    On 05 Jun 2025, Dr. What said the following...


    Like all Dementors, he's completely useless and if he wasn't getting
    money from an NGO, he's have to be working mopping floors, because
    that's the only job he's qualified to do.


    Trump had a a call with Vlad yesterday and it sounds like Russia will respond to Z's drone attack the other day.

    I hope this retaliation doesn't spark WWIII.

    I heard about some of the things that Russia had in the peace talks... and one of them was that Ukraine call an election.

    Z objected the most on this because his pay check will dry up.

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 6 03:19:15 2025
    Hello IB!

    Monday June 02 2025 09:16, you wrote to Gerhard Strangar:

    He co-founded PayPal
    He founded SpaceX
    He revolutionized the electric car industry
    He created OpenAI
    He co-founded Neuralink
    He instituted the Big Falcon Rocket
    His Crew Dragon spacecraft transported astronauts to the ISS
    He provided internet to Ukraine during Russia's invasion
    He was named the world’s richest person

    How is it going, Joe? Which side are you on now, TACO or junkie? Your world is falling apart. =))))))))))))))))))

    Alex

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  • From Alex Galiyev@1:129/14.1 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jun 6 03:21:48 2025
    Hello IB!

    Monday June 02 2025 09:16, you wrote to Gerhard Strangar:

    He co-founded PayPal
    He founded SpaceX
    He revolutionized the electric car industry
    He created OpenAI
    He co-founded Neuralink
    He instituted the Big Falcon Rocket
    His Crew Dragon spacecraft transported astronauts to the ISS
    He provided internet to Ukraine during Russia's invasion
    He was named the world’s richest person

    How is it going, Aaron? Which side are you on now, TACO or junkie? Your world is falling apart. =))))))))))))))))))

    Alex

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 6 07:22:32 2025
    IB Joe wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Z objected the most on this because his pay check will dry up.

    Peace is not in Z-ski's best interest.

    This is where Trump is naive, I think. He assumes that all sides wants the killing to stop. The reality is that Z-ski doesn't care about his people dying.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Fri Jun 6 06:24:13 2025
    He provided internet to Ukraine during Russia's invasion
    He was named the world’s richest person

    How is it going, Aaron? Which side are you on now, TACO or junkie? Your world is falling apart. =))))))))))))))))))

    I assume that their disagreement is about the missile defense shield that Trump wants. At least 78% of American voters want it too. I know I want it.

    Do you think it's funny when 2 conservatives don't agree on something? I think it's funny how liberals are 100% in agreement with one another at all times. Nobody's allowed to think differently because if they do (and it has happened before) then they get banished from the Democrat Party (outcast at least.)

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alex Galiyev on Fri Jun 6 08:18:26 2025
    On 06 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

    How is it going, Joe? Which side are you on now, TACO or junkie? Your world is falling apart. =))))))))))))))))))


    No it's not falling apart... In the past few days we see Growth in the economy, past quarter, at ~ 5%. We have seen the US trade deficit shrink by over 50%, closer to 60%. Almost 10 Trillion in new investments for the economy... Also ~ 18 Billion dollars a day added to the treasury after a few months of Trumps new plan to spark the golden age of America.

    And you concern yourself about a Bromance ending.

    Who cares with all this winning...

    BTW, Elon has been diagnosed win/in the Spectrum of Autism... This might be normal for those that are autistic... It could also explain other bad decisions that Elon has made, soooooooooooo many babies with soooooooooo many baby mamas... And the fact that he used Windows and not Linux for PayPal.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Ron L. on Fri Jun 6 08:24:46 2025
    On 06 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...


    Peace is not in Z-ski's best interest.

    This is where Trump is naive, I think. He assumes that all sides wants the killing to stop. The reality is that Z-ski doesn't care about his people dying.


    Headline today Z is asking for a ceasefire... looks like he's scared about Vlad's response.

    Looks like more will die before the talks restart.

    BTW, I was looking at a few of Vlad's requests in the peace talks and Z was pissed that Vlad called for Elections in Ukraine.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to IB JOE on Sat Jun 7 08:04:00 2025
    BTW, I was looking at a few of Vlad's requests in the peace talks and Z was pissed that Vlad called for Elections in Ukraine.

    It is difficult to hold elections when parts of your country are under the control of another country. Also a lot easier for that other country to
    meddle in your election.

    Same principle as how the illegal immigrants might interfere in ours.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Mike Powell on Sat Jun 7 08:08:15 2025
    On 07 Jun 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

    It is difficult to hold elections when parts of your country are under
    the control of another country. Also a lot easier for that other
    country to meddle in your election.

    Same principle as how the illegal immigrants might interfere in ours.


    It's not. And ask for ID... Paper Ballots and no machines counting them.

    Problem solved.

    Vlad asked Z to hold elections as part of the peace talks....

    Z could have said... NO PROBLEM... we'll hold an election with in X amount of days after you keep your end of the deal up.

    You and Alex would not want the people of Ukraine to have their voices heard. They might support everything Z has done to date...

    OR... They could reject it.

    Your reasoning is that once someone you like gets power they can cancel election and drag the country into WWIII and the people have no say about what their leaders do because there MAY BE a chance that someone from Poland votes.

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