• Getting Tired

    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 9 15:52:27 2025
    Hi Dave,

    It may take some time or you may escape it entirely. Just make sure
    that if it hits while you're cooking, to turn off the stove, put knives
    in a secure spot and any open food gets stowed before going to lie
    down.

    Yesterday - the day after the final (I hope) session I experienced fatigue. But, by early evening I was as close to normal as I ever get.

    Good, maybe you will escape the heavier side effects. I had a much
    longer regime so had more of the side effects. Right now the major
    fatigue is jet lag from the quick trip to Hawaii.


    Good advice for if, as and when.

    I just don't want to read somewhere that you got done in by something
    that was easily remidiable by a bit of advance thinking. Knives make
    prep work easy but if you're slicing something up when tired, it's too easy to slice fresh meat at the same time.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    road. We'd gone over the mountain, nearest town was 40 minutes in back
    of us. Since we weren't sure of what damage I'd done and if the metal plate/screws in the elbow had been damaged, we went back to the ER
    there. Set us back several hours but it was worth getting checked out
    at an ER vs an Urgent Care. I'd missed lunch and got out of the ER near supper time so we stopped at a DQ for cones before going back over the mountain for the 3rd time that day. Spent the night boondocking at a remote trailhead in SE Utah.

    Better to invest a few hours than to pay will *all* of your remaiing
    hours by not getting treated/checked out. They finally convinced me
    that I am not bulletproof - so whenever I have a faux pas (French for tripping over my own big feet) I go get anything more than a Band Aid "owie" checked out.

    Steve saw the cut when he cleaned me off and saw that it was one that
    needed professional expertise to close it. I've seen the scar (in a
    mirror) and know it was for the better. The arm is still a bit weak as I
    found when trying to carry my purse and Steve's laptop bag on it while deplaning (right hand was dragging a roller bag) a couple of times. We
    had two flights out, two back, changing planes on the way out in LVNV
    and inbound in Phoenix, both familiar to us airports.


    My Hy-Vee (currently USA Today's #1 Grocer) offers both pick-up and deliverry if I buy U$25 or more worth of grub. Which, given today's
    prices is not at all hard to do. That's how I get pantry items and
    frozen stuff. Fresh meat and produce - I still buy in person. But the delivery (even tipping the driver) or pick-up saves a lot of time and, especially, effort.

    I'm still enjoying shopping in person but may try a pick up/delivery service at some point. Most of our groceries we get at Wegman's but go
    to super big box stores for paper goods, vitamins, etc. Eventually
    we'll probably condense everything down to one store but we're not
    ready to yet.

    I'd bet that Wegman's has a pick-up/delivery service similar to
    Hy-Vee's. I note that all but the "discount" grocers like Ruler Foods
    and Sav-A-Lot have begun offering the pick-up and/or delivery.

    I'm not 100% sure as we've not had the need to check it out. The store
    was being built in 2020-21 (the height of covid) so we were shopping
    elsewhere.


    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    That's how we feel. We came home with some Hawaiian treads (macadamia nuts--dark and milk chocolate covered, garlic/onion and Maui onion
    flavored), some shrimp seasoning and multi purpose seasoning. All old
    favorites from when we lived there. Also given some macadamia
    nut/caramel and macadamia nut (other, don't recall off the top of my
    head) bars


    This will be tonight's supper using one of the U$3 rotisserie chickens
    I picked up last evening at th GFS store.


    Title: Crack Chicken Grilled Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Breads, Pork
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh
    (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half
    of my mustard potato salad and 4 (of 8) broiled shrimp home. Potato
    salad was the best part of the meal as the shrimp were overdone and the
    cole slaw was a finely chopped cabbage and who knows what tasteless mix.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jul 11 06:51:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Yesterday - the day after the final (I hope) session I experienced fatigue. But, by early evening I was as close to normal as I ever get.

    Good, maybe you will escape the heavier side effects. I had a much
    longer regime so had more of the side effects. Right now the major
    fatigue is jet lag from the quick trip to Hawaii.

    Other than that one instance - which may - or mat not 0 have been a side
    effect I've escaped pretty cleanly. We'll see what the scanner says when
    they check their work.

    Good advice for if, as and when.

    I just don't want to read somewhere that you got done in by something
    that was easily remidiable by a bit of advance thinking. Knives make
    prep work easy but if you're slicing something up when tired, it's too easy to slice fresh meat at the same time.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Steve saw the cut when he cleaned me off and saw that it was one that needed professional expertise to close it. I've seen the scar (in a mirror) and know it was for the better. The arm is still a bit weak as
    I found when trying to carry my purse and Steve's laptop bag on it
    while deplaning (right hand was dragging a roller bag) a couple of
    times. We had two flights out, two back, changing planes on the way out
    in LVNV and inbound in Phoenix, both familiar to us airports.

    That's why Amazon sells those collapsible roll along baskets. And why I
    bought a fold-up 2 wheel dolly at Harbor Freight that I keepin the boot
    of my Beemer. Lots easier to wheel stuff rather than carry it.

    My Hy-Vee (currently USA Today's #1 Grocer) offers both pick-up and deliverry if I buy U$25 or more worth of grub. Which, given today's
    prices is not at all hard to do. That's how I get pantry items and
    frozen stuff. Fresh meat and produce - I still buy in person. But the delivery (even tipping the driver) or pick-up saves a lot of time and, especially, effort.

    I'm still enjoying shopping in person but may try a pick up/delivery service at some point. Most of our groceries we get at Wegman's but go
    to super big box stores for paper goods, vitamins, etc. Eventually
    we'll probably condense everything down to one store but we're not
    ready to yet.

    I'd bet that Wegman's has a pick-up/delivery service similar to
    Hy-Vee's. I note that all but the "discount" grocers like Ruler Foods
    and Sav-A-Lot have begun offering the pick-up and/or delivery.

    I'm not 100% sure as we've not had the need to check it out. The store
    was being built in 2020-21 (the height of covid) so we were shopping elsewhere.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    Now days, though, I use the "driveable" shopping carts. A great convenience especially in a Big Box store.

    That's how we feel. We came home with some Hawaiian treads (macadamia nuts--dark and milk chocolate covered, garlic/onion and Maui onion flavored), some shrimp seasoning and multi purpose seasoning. All old favorites from when we lived there. Also given some macadamia
    nut/caramel and macadamia nut (other, don't recall off the top of my
    head) bars

    This will be tonight's supper using one of the U$3 rotisserie chickens
    I picked up last evening at th GFS store.

    Title: Crack Chicken Grilled Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Breads, Pork
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half
    of my mustard potato salad and 4 (of 8) broiled shrimp home. Potato
    salad was the best part of the meal as the shrimp were overdone and the cole slaw was a finely chopped cabbage and who knows what tasteless
    mix.

    I've not been to a Dead Lobster in years. If I'm doing "serious" seafood out - I generally hit up Chesapeake Seafood House. chesapeakeseafoodhouse.com

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Gigot Of Monkfish Romarin w/Anchovies
    Categories: Fat ladies, Seafood, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 1/4 lb Monkfish tail
    1 Tin anchovy filets
    6 tb Olive oil
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1 lg Bunch fresh rosemary

    MMMMM---------------------TOMATO VINAIGRETTE--------------------------
    10 tb Olive oil
    4 ts Wine vinegar
    4 ts Fine chopped tomatoes

    Using a larding needle or a sharp knife, make slits in
    the fish and insert pieces of anchovy. Marinate the fish
    in a mixture of oil and lemon juice, seasoned with salt
    and pepper, for at least 2 hours.

    Lay the fish on a large bed of rosemary in a roasting
    tin. Pour more oil over the fish (It is the presence of
    fat that releases the essential oils of the rosemary).
    Roast in a 350ºF/175ºC oven for 45 minutes.

    To make the tomato vinaigrette, heat the ingredients
    in a small pan and season to taste.

    Transfer the fish to a serving dish and pour over the
    warm vinaigrette.

    Prep Time: 2 hours 15 minutes

    Cooking Time: 45 minutes

    Recipe Courtesy of Jennifer Paterson and Clarissa
    Dickson Wright (The Two Fat Ladies)

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 30 April 2000

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 11 15:08:01 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Other than that one instance - which may - or mat not 0 have been a
    side effect I've escaped pretty cleanly. We'll see what the scanner
    says when they check their work.
    Good advice for if, as and when.

    Always good to get some input from someone who has gone thru the same
    thing. It's not an identical experience but will give you a first hand
    idea of what to expect. You had radiation light; I had the big guns. (G)

    I just don't want to read somewhere that you got done in by something
    that was easily remidiable by a bit of advance thinking. Knives make
    prep work easy but if you're slicing something up when tired, it's too easy to slice fresh meat at the same time.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Steve saw the cut when he cleaned me off and saw that it was one that needed professional expertise to close it. I've seen the scar (in a mirror) and know it was for the better. The arm is still a bit weak as
    I found when trying to carry my purse and Steve's laptop bag on it
    while deplaning (right hand was dragging a roller bag) a couple of
    times. We had two flights out, two back, changing planes on the way out
    in LVNV and inbound in Phoenix, both familiar to us airports.

    That's why Amazon sells those collapsible roll along baskets. And why
    I bought a fold-up 2 wheel dolly at Harbor Freight that I keepin the
    boot of my Beemer. Lots easier to wheel stuff rather than carry it.

    Steve was rolling my portable (somewhat smaller than the home unit but
    still fair sized) oxygen concentrator and his roller bag with the CPAP
    bag on top of the latter. I had my roller bag, purse and (a couple of
    times,) the lap top. Normally my load would have been lighter but I'm
    still regaining strength in the left arm. BTW, Southwest has different
    snacks now, an oat and strawberry mini muffin, Ritz crackers & cheese,
    Oreo cookies, Maui onion pretzel twists and almonds.


    I'd bet that Wegman's has a pick-up/delivery service similar to
    Hy-Vee's. I note that all but the "discount" grocers like Ruler Foods
    and Sav-A-Lot have begun offering the pick-up and/or delivery.

    I'm not 100% sure as we've not had the need to check it out. The store
    was being built in 2020-21 (the height of covid) so we were shopping elsewhere.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    Now days, though, I use the "driveable" shopping carts. A great convenience especially in a Big Box store.

    I used them when I had my knee replacement and when I broke my left
    foot. Handy, but my dad never let my mom use it--didn't trust her
    driving. (G)


    That's how we feel. We came home with some Hawaiian treats
    (macadamia RH> nuts--dark and milk chocolate covered, garlic/onion and
    Maui onion RH> flavored), some shrimp seasoning and multi purpose
    seasoning. All old RH> favorites from when we lived there. Also given
    some macadamia RH> nut/caramel and macadamia nut (other, don't recall
    off the top of my RH> head) bars

    This will be tonight's supper using one of the U$3 rotisserie chickens
    I picked up last evening at th GFS store.

    Title: Crack Chicken Grilled Sandwich
    Categories: Poultry, Cheese, Breads, Pork
    Yield: 1 Serving

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half
    of my mustard potato salad and 4 (of 8) broiled shrimp home. Potato
    salad was the best part of the meal as the shrimp were overdone and the cole slaw was a finely chopped cabbage and who knows what tasteless
    mix.

    I've not been to a Dead Lobster in years. If I'm doing "serious"
    seafood out - I generally hit up Chesapeake Seafood House. chesapeakeseafoodhouse.com

    This was not RL; it was called The Mayflower. We'd been there before, a
    few times, but found much better seafood elsewhere. Even RL is better.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:320/219 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jul 13 11:19:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Other than that one instance - which may - or mat not 0 have been a
    side effect I've escaped pretty cleanly. We'll see what the scanner
    says when they check their work. Good advice for if, as and when.

    Always good to get some input from someone who has gone thru the same thing. It's not an identical experience but will give you a first hand idea of what to expect. You had radiation light; I had the big guns.
    (G)

    I dunno. That machine I was subjected to was pretty big and had lots of moveable arms and attachments. Rather like being in the midst of a ballet
    as it twirled and the devices on the ends of the arms retreated or came
    near.

    I just don't want to read somewhere that you got done in by something
    that was easily remidiable by a bit of advance thinking. Knives make
    prep work easy but if you're slicing something up when tired, it's too easy to slice fresh meat at the same time.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Steve was rolling my portable (somewhat smaller than the home unit but still fair sized) oxygen concentrator and his roller bag with the CPAP
    bag on top of the latter. I had my roller bag, purse and (a couple of times,) the lap top. Normally my load would have been lighter but I'm still regaining strength in the left arm. BTW, Southwest has different snacks now, an oat and strawberry mini muffin, Ritz crackers & cheese, Oreo cookies, Maui onion pretzel twists and almonds.

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrier aboutn the size of
    a mid-sized ladies purse. Guessing at the weight I'd say 8 to 10 pounds.

    I'd bet that Wegman's has a pick-up/delivery service similar to
    Hy-Vee's. I note that all but the "discount" grocers like Ruler Foods
    and Sav-A-Lot have begun offering the pick-up and/or delivery.

    I'm not 100% sure as we've not had the need to check it out. The store
    was being built in 2020-21 (the height of covid) so we were shopping elsewhere.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    Now days, though, I use the "driveable" shopping carts. A great convenience especially in a Big Box store.

    I used them when I had my knee replacement and when I broke my left
    foot. Handy, but my dad never let my mom use it--didn't trust her
    driving. (G)

    He wasn't spry enough toduck out of the way? Bv)=

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half
    of my mustard potato salad and 4 (of 8) broiled shrimp home. Potato
    salad was the best part of the meal as the shrimp were overdone and the cole slaw was a finely chopped cabbage and who knows what tasteless
    mix.

    I've not been to a Dead Lobster in years. If I'm doing "serious"
    seafood out - I generally hit up Chesapeake Seafood House. chesapeakeseafoodhouse.com

    This was not RL; it was called The Mayflower. We'd been there before, a few times, but found much better seafood elsewhere. Even RL is better.

    Eeeeeewwwwww ... the Lob is sorta the McDonalds of chain seafood. If they
    can't match or better that how do they stay in business. Our most popular seafood place is in an old gas station with a "cook shack" out front. If
    you want to "dine-in" there is a picnic table between the shack and street.

    Locally caught fish from Lake Springfield, Sangamon and Illnois Rivers are offered for sale .... dressed and ready for you to take home and cook. Or cooked (deep-fry) out front.

    www.cartersfishmarket.com

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Smoked Asian Carp
    Categories: Five, Seafood, Bbq
    Yield: 20 Servings

    5 lb Skin-on Asian carp steaks
    - or filets
    1 c Kosher or pickling salt
    1 c Brown sugar
    Charcoal for smoker
    Wood chips; cherry or apple

    Mix salt and sugar in a bowl. Roll filets in salt/sugar
    mixture until coated. Seal filets in a re-sealable plastic
    bag and place in the refrigerator for 2 hours. Flip bag
    over and refrigerate for an additional 2 hours.

    Remove filets and rinse under cold water. Place filets on
    a cooling rack until water dries.

    Soak wood chips in water one hour before smoking. Light
    charcoal and let it burn until covered with a light ash.
    Fill smoker's water pan to create steam in smoker and keep
    fish from drying out.

    Lightly oil the grill and position brined fish skin-side
    down on the rack. Add a handful of wood chips to charcoal
    and close smoker. Replenish chips every 20-30 minutes.
    Most fish will be cooked in 1-2 hours, but times will vary
    with the outside temperature and the number of coals.

    Finished filets will have a golden honey to mahogany
    color, depending on the type of wood chips used.

    Cooked fish will flake easily and be opaque on the inside.
    Allow fish to cool and serve "as is" or use in recipes
    that traditionally call for smoked salmon.

    Makes 20 servings, so enjoy with friends!

    This recipe was shared with us by Illinois-Indiana Sea
    Grant and Steve Robillard, Illinois Department of Natural
    Resources (recipe adapted from recipe in Outdoor Illinois,
    Illinois Department of Natural Resources, May 2002).

    RECIPE FROM: http://invasivore.org

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Jul 17 14:17:17 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Always good to get some input from someone who has gone thru the same thing. It's not an identical experience but will give you a first hand idea of what to expect. You had radiation light; I had the big guns.
    (G)

    I dunno. That machine I was subjected to was pretty big and had lots
    of moveable arms and attachments. Rather like being in the midst of a ballet as it twirled and the devices on the ends of the arms retreated
    or came near.

    Yes, but you only had what, 5 treatments? I had 35. Same sort of
    machines but the total amount of radiation is quite different.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    Steve was rolling my portable (somewhat smaller than the home unit but still fair sized) oxygen concentrator and his roller bag with the CPAP
    bag on top of the latter. I had my roller bag, purse and (a couple of times,) the lap top. Normally my load would have been lighter but I'm still regaining strength in the left arm. BTW, Southwest has different snacks now, an oat and strawberry mini muffin, Ritz crackers & cheese, Oreo cookies, Maui onion pretzel twists and almonds.

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrier aboutn the size
    of a mid-sized ladies purse. Guessing at the weight I'd say 8 to 10 pounds.

    You get the O2 in bursts; mine is a continuous flow. The unit is about
    half the size of my home unit but still takes up a good amount of space.
    We filled one overhead bin with our 2 roller bags, the concentrator,
    Steve's CPAP machine and the battery for the concentrator. Steve
    sometimes had his laptop as his personal item; other times it was in his
    roller bag.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    Now days, though, I use the "driveable" shopping carts. A great convenience especially in a Big Box store.

    I used them when I had my knee replacement and when I broke my left
    foot. Handy, but my dad never let my mom use it--didn't trust her
    driving. (G)

    He wasn't spry enough toduck out of the way? Bv)=

    Partly that, especially as he was usually in front of her. For a while
    she would hang on to the buggy, pushing it, but when that got to be too
    much, he'd sit her up front on a bench (local store, everybody knew
    them) and he'd take the ride 'em cart.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half

    I've not been to a Dead Lobster in years. If I'm doing "serious"
    seafood out - I generally hit up Chesapeake Seafood House. chesapeakeseafoodhouse.com

    This was not RL; it was called The Mayflower. We'd been there before, a few times, but found much better seafood elsewhere. Even RL is better.

    Eeeeeewwwwww ... the Lob is sorta the McDonalds of chain seafood. If
    they can't match or better that how do they stay in business. Our most popular seafood place is in an old gas station with a "cook shack" out front. If you want to "dine-in" there is a picnic table between the
    shack and street.

    That's the way to get it. Our favorite casual place is the seafood
    restaurant at the NC State Farmer's Market. You get a heaping full
    styrofoam box with hush puppies and a side, usually enough for 2 meals
    or two people splitting the box. My favorite is a combo of shrimp and
    scallops; it's heavy on the shrimp but the scallops are the bigger ones
    and sweet!


    Locally caught fish from Lake Springfield, Sangamon and Illnois Rivers
    are offered for sale .... dressed and ready for you to take home and
    cook. Or cooked (deep-fry) out front.

    www.cartersfishmarket.com

    Sounds like a place worthy of our patronage. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 19 06:32:11 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Always good to get some input from someone who has gone thru the same thing. It's not an identical experience but will give you a first hand idea of what to expect. You had radiation light; I had the big guns.
    (G)

    I dunno. That machine I was subjected to was pretty big and had lots
    of moveable arms and attachments. Rather like being in the midst of a ballet as it twirled and the devices on the ends of the arms retreated
    or came near.

    Yes, but you only had what, 5 treatments? I had 35. Same sort of
    machines but the total amount of radiation is quite different.

    Diffrent strokes .... Hopefully I'm done with that. Fortunately there wre
    no major side effects.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrier aboutn the size
    of a mid-sized ladies purse. Guessing at the weight I'd say 8 to 10 pounds.

    You get the O2 in bursts; mine is a continuous flow. The unit is about half the size of my home unit but still takes up a good amount of
    space.

    How long is your battery good for on continuous flow? My portables are
    good for 4 - 5 hours on 3 liters. Continuous, I am told, takes more power
    than "pulsed". I don't care so long as it works. And it's waaaaaay more convenient than wrestling O2 cylinders into and out of the car.

    And, as convenient as that is I still go, live and in-person to hand
    pick my fresh produce and/or meats.

    Now days, though, I use the "driveable" shopping carts. A great convenience especially in a Big Box store.

    I used them when I had my knee replacement and when I broke my left
    foot. Handy, but my dad never let my mom use it--didn't trust her
    driving. (G)

    He wasn't spry enough toduck out of the way? Bv)=

    Partly that, especially as he was usually in front of her. For a while
    she would hang on to the buggy, pushing it, but when that got to be too much, he'd sit her up front on a bench (local store, everybody knew
    them) and he'd take the ride 'em cart.

    I remember at one of the pinics Dale Shipp remarked that he often used
    the grocery trolley as a walker in place of a regular walking frame.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Sounds good. We stopped for supper at a chain seafood place in Raleigh (first choice, non chain, was closed) last night; I brought about half

    I've not been to a Dead Lobster in years. If I'm doing "serious"
    seafood out - I generally hit up Chesapeake Seafood House. chesapeakeseafoodhouse.com

    This was not RL; it was called The Mayflower. We'd been there before, a few times, but found much better seafood elsewhere. Even RL is better.

    Eeeeeewwwwww ... the Lob is sorta the McDonalds of chain seafood. If
    they can't match or better that how do they stay in business. Our most popular seafood place is in an old gas station with a "cook shack" out front. If you want to "dine-in" there is a picnic table between the
    shack and street.

    That's the way to get it. Our favorite casual place is the seafood restaurant at the NC State Farmer's Market. You get a heaping full styrofoam box with hush puppies and a side, usually enough for 2 meals
    or two people splitting the box. My favorite is a combo of shrimp and scallops; it's heavy on the shrimp but the scallops are the bigger ones and sweet!

    Makes me wish we had something like that here.

    Locally caught fish from Lake Springfield, Sangamon and Illnois Rivers
    are offered for sale .... dressed and ready for you to take home and
    cook. Or cooked (deep-fry) out front.

    www.cartersfishmarket.com

    Sounds like a place worthy of our patronage. (G)

    You betcha. I try to arrive when the lines are short. Especially during
    hot weather.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fish rolls w/Vegetables
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Dairy, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Vegetables; carrot, celery,
    - potato, peas and others
    1 1/2 lb Fish fillet
    2 lg Eggs
    1 c Milk
    1 md Onion; chopped
    Salt & pepper
    3 oz Grated cheese
    3 tb Oil
    Scallion greens or chives;
    - sliced

    Slice peeled vegetables and stew all together until half
    done. Sprinkle sliced fillet with salt, chopped onion
    and pepper and roll into small logs and secure with
    wooden sticks. Put the rolls on stewed vegetables, pour
    over milk combined with eggs and arrange some butter
    pieces on top. Cover and stew in the preheated oven for
    30 minutes. Sprinkle with chopped greens before serving.

    Source: Olga Timokhina

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.ruscuisine.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 19 15:00:58 2025
    Hi Dave,


    I dunno. That machine I was subjected to was pretty big and had lots
    of moveable arms and attachments. Rather like being in the midst of a ballet as it twirled and the devices on the ends of the arms retreated
    or came near.

    Yes, but you only had what, 5 treatments? I had 35. Same sort of
    machines but the total amount of radiation is quite different.

    Diffrent strokes .... Hopefully I'm done with that. Fortunately there
    wre no major side effects.

    Good, and hopefully there will be no recurrance.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrier aboutn the size
    of a mid-sized ladies purse. Guessing at the weight I'd say 8 to 10 pounds.

    You get the O2 in bursts; mine is a continuous flow. The unit is about half the size of my home unit but still takes up a good amount of
    space.

    How long is your battery good for on continuous flow? My portables are good for 4 - 5 hours on 3 liters. Continuous, I am told, takes more
    power than "pulsed". I don't care so long as it works. And it's
    waaaaaay more convenient than wrestling O2 cylinders into and out of
    the car.

    I really don't recall exactly off the top of my head. I know when we
    flew out to Vancouver (flight to toronto, then 2nd one to Vancouver), we
    were asked if the battery would last the length of the flight and we
    told them "yes". Didn't need the machine in flight but it had to fly in
    the cabin, just in case........ And yes, we've a friend who goes thru
    several cylinders a day now. He doesn't get out much any more.

    foot. Handy, but my dad never let my mom use it--didn't trust her
    driving. (G)

    He wasn't spry enough toduck out of the way? Bv)=

    Partly that, especially as he was usually in front of her. For a while
    she would hang on to the buggy, pushing it, but when that got to be too much, he'd sit her up front on a bench (local store, everybody knew
    them) and he'd take the ride 'em cart.

    I remember at one of the pinics Dale Shipp remarked that he often used
    the grocery trolley as a walker in place of a regular walking frame.

    That's basically what she did also but it got to be too much for dad to
    try to keep her from trying to wander (dementia) while he was shopping.
    With her sitting up front, if she started to wander, one of the cashiers
    would gently guide her back to her seat.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Eeeeeewwwwww ... the Lob is sorta the McDonalds of chain seafood. If
    they can't match or better that how do they stay in business. Our most popular seafood place is in an old gas station with a "cook shack" out front. If you want to "dine-in" there is a picnic table between the
    shack and street.

    That's the way to get it. Our favorite casual place is the seafood restaurant at the NC State Farmer's Market. You get a heaping full styrofoam box with hush puppies and a side, usually enough for 2 meals
    or two people splitting the box. My favorite is a combo of shrimp and scallops; it's heavy on the shrimp but the scallops are the bigger ones and sweet!

    Makes me wish we had something like that here.

    If you ever visit the Raleigh area,...........


    Locally caught fish from Lake Springfield, Sangamon and Illnois Rivers
    are offered for sale .... dressed and ready for you to take home and
    cook. Or cooked (deep-fry) out front.

    www.cartersfishmarket.com

    Sounds like a place worthy of our patronage. (G)

    You betcha. I try to arrive when the lines are short. Especially
    during hot weather.

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:320/219 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 21 12:19:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I dunno. That machine I was subjected to was pretty big and had lots
    of moveable arms and attachments. Rather like being in the midst of a ballet as it twirled and the devices on the ends of the arms retreated
    or came near.

    Yes, but you only had what, 5 treatments? I had 35. Same sort of
    machines but the total amount of radiation is quite different.

    Diffrent strokes .... Hopefully I'm done with that. Fortunately there
    wre no major side effects.

    Good, and hopefully there will be (slow growing)no re
    a currance.

    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather than
    a melanoma.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrier about the size
    of a mid-sized ladies purse. Guessing at the weight I'd say 8 to 10 pounds.

    You get the O2 in bursts; mine is a continuous flow. The unit is about half the size of my home unit but still takes up a good amount of
    space.

    Machs nicht aqs long as I get it.

    How long is your battery good for on continuous flow? My portables are good for 4 - 5 hours on 3 liters. Continuous, I am told, takes more
    power than "pulsed". I don't care so long as it works. And it's
    waaaaaay more convenient than wrestling O2 cylinders into and out of
    the car.

    I really don't recall exactly off the top of my head. I know when we
    flew out to Vancouver (flight to toronto, then 2nd one to Vancouver),
    we were asked if the battery would last the length of the flight and we told them "yes". Didn't need the machine in flight but it had to fly in the cabin, just in case........ And yes, we've a friend who goes thru several cylinders a day now. He doesn't get out much any more.

    If he's not getting around much anymore why would he go through the
    cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor standing
    conventrator.

    foot. Handy, but my da d never let my mom use it--didn't trust her driving. (G)

    He wasn't spry enough to duck out of the way? Bv)=

    Partly that, especially as he was usually in front of her. For a while
    she would hang on to the buggy, pushing it, but when that got to be too much, he'd sit her up front on a bench (local store, everybody knew
    them) and he'd take the ride 'em cart.

    I remember at one of the picnics Dale Shipp remarked that he often used the grocery trolley as a walker in place of a regular walking frame.

    That's basically what she did also but it got to be too much for dad to try to keep her from trying to wander (dementia) while he was shopping. With her sitting up front, if she started to wander, one of the
    cashiers would gently guide her back to her seat.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Eeeeeewwwwww ... the Lob is sorta the McDonalds of chain seafood. If
    they can't match or better that how do they stay in business. Our most popular seafood place is in an old gas station with a "cook shack" out front. If you want to "dine-in" there is a picnic table between the
    shack and street.

    That's the way to get it. Our favorite casual place is the seafood restaurant at the NC State Farmer's Market. You get a heaping full styrofoam box with hush puppies and a side, usually enough for 2 meals
    or two people splitting the box. My favorite is a combo of shrimp and scallops; it's heavy on the shrimp but the scallops are the bigger ones and sweet!

    Makes me wish we had something like that here.

    If you ever visit the Raleigh area,...........

    Chances of that are slim and none. And Slim's on vacation. Bv)=

    Locally caught fish from Lake Springfield, Sangamon and Illnois Rivers
    are offered for sale .... dressed and ready for you to take home and
    cook. Or cooked (deep-fry) out front.

    www.cartersfishmarket.com

    Sounds like a place worthy of our patronage. (G)

    You betcha. I try to arrive when the lines are short. Especially
    during hot weather.

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Home From Hospital Blueberry Crumble Pizza
    Categories: Breads, Cheese, Dairy, Fruits, Desserts
    Yield: 9 Servings

    2 (12") prepared whole wheat
    - pizza crusts
    12 oz Cream cheese; softened
    1/2 c Sweetened condensed milk
    1 lg Egg
    1 ts Vanilla
    1 1/2 c Blueberries; fresh or frozen
    1/2 c Brown sugar
    1/2 c All-purpose flour
    1 ts Cinnamon
    3 tb Butter; softened

    Set oven @ 425§F/218§C.

    Place pizza crusts on round pizza pans.

    In a large mixing bowl, combine cream cheese, condensed
    milk, vanilla and egg until well blended. Pour mixture
    over crust. Sprinkle blueberries evenly over creamy
    mixture.

    In a small bowl, combine brown sugar, flour, cinnamon
    and butter until the mixture resembles coarse crumbs.
    Sprinkle crumb topping over blueberry mixture.

    Bake 18 to 20 minutes, Remove from oven, allow to cool
    completely, slice and serve. Refrigerate leftovers.

    Makes two pizzas, 8 to 10 servings.

    From: Carolyn Vandeveer, Vancouver, WA

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 21 14:20:48 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Diffrent strokes .... Hopefully I'm done with that. Fortunately there
    wre no major side effects.

    Good, and hopefully there will be (slow growing)no re
    a currance.

    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather
    than a melanoma.

    Mine was DCIS--Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (IOW, in a milk duct). I have to
    make sure I get the annual check up. Reason it was caught at an early
    stage was that I'd put off my annual check up for 6 months, due to
    moving from HI to GA. Steve had an appointment at the Fort Stewart
    hospital so I called to see if I could get in that day for a mammogram.
    If I'd gone in at the time I was supposed to, then again the next year,
    it would not have been caught at such an early stage.


    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrier about the size
    of a mid-sized ladies purse. Guessing at the weight I'd say 8 to 10 pounds.

    You get the O2 in bursts; mine is a continuous flow. The unit is about half the size of my home unit but still takes up a good amount of
    space.

    Machs nicht aqs long as I get it.

    Understandable.


    How long is your battery good for on continuous flow? My portables are good for 4 - 5 hours on 3 liters. Continuous, I am told, takes more
    power than "pulsed". I don't care so long as it works. And it's
    waaaaaay more convenient than wrestling O2 cylinders into and out of
    the car.

    I really don't recall exactly off the top of my head. I know when we
    flew out to Vancouver (flight to toronto, then 2nd one to Vancouver),
    we were asked if the battery would last the length of the flight and we told them "yes". Didn't need the machine in flight but it had to fly in the cabin, just in case........ And yes, we've a friend who goes thru several cylinders a day now. He doesn't get out much any more.

    If he's not getting around much anymore why would he go through the cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting
    it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor
    standing conventrator.

    I don't know full details but do know last year at the VFW Christmas
    party he had to have someone go out and get a new tank; he commented
    about going thru several whenever he's out. I presume he has a floor
    model concentrator for home use.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Eeeeeewwwwww ... the Lob is sorta the McDonalds of chain seafood. If
    they can't match or better that how do they stay in business. Our most popular seafood place is in an old gas station with a "cook shack" out front. If you want to "dine-in" there is a picnic table between the
    shack and street.

    That's the way to get it. Our favorite casual place is the seafood restaurant at the NC State Farmer's Market. You get a heaping full styrofoam box with hush puppies and a side, usually enough for 2 meals
    or two people splitting the box. My favorite is a combo of shrimp and scallops; it's heavy on the shrimp but the scallops are the bigger ones and sweet!

    Makes me wish we had something like that here.

    If you ever visit the Raleigh area,...........

    Chances of that are slim and none. And Slim's on vacation. Bv)=

    Does he ever get off of vacation? (G)

    Locally caught fish from Lake Springfield, Sangamon and Illnois
    Rivers DD> are offered for sale .... dressed and ready for you to take
    home and DD> cook. Or cooked (deep-fry) out front.

    www.cartersfishmarket.com

    Sounds like a place worthy of our patronage. (G)

    You betcha. I try to arrive when the lines are short. Especially
    during hot weather.

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    No, it didn't. I needed the quietness after 3 full days of working the
    expo so even tho the food wasn't quite what we'd wanted to get, having
    the calmer atmosphere was worth it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 23 07:45:36 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Diffrent strokes .... Hopefully I'm done with that. Fortunately there
    wre no major side effects.

    Good, and hopefully there will be (slow growing)no re
    a currance.

    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather
    than a melanoma.

    Mine was DCIS--Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (IOW, in a milk duct). I have
    to make sure I get the annual check up. Reason it was caught at an
    early stage was that I'd put off my annual check up for 6 months, due
    to moving from HI to GA. Steve had an appointment at the Fort Stewart hospital so I called to see if I could get in that day for a mammogram.
    If I'd gone in at the time I was supposed to, then again the next year,
    it would not have been caught at such an early stage.

    Learned something (re-learned, actually) when reading about cancer. Men
    can develop breast cancer even though they can't give milk.

    8<----- XXXXX ----->8

    My portable O2 unit is in an over-the-shoulder carrie
    I really don't recall exactly off the top of my head. I know when we
    flew out to Vancouver (flight to toronto, then 2nd one to Vancouver),
    we were asked if the battery would last the length of the flight and we told them "yes". Didn't need the machine in flight but it had to fly in the cabin, just in case........ And yes, we've a friend who goes thru several cylinders a day now. He doesn't get out much any more.

    If he's not getting around much anymore why would he go through the cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting
    it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor
    standing conventrator.

    I don't know full details but do know last year at the VFW Christmas
    party he had to have someone go out and get a new tank; he commented
    about going thru several whenever he's out. I presume he has a floor
    model concentrator for home use.

    He must stay out for extended periods and at a hih flow rate. My pulmonoloist has reduced me to 2 LPM so I get a couple hours off a tank.

    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    No, it didn't. I needed the quietness after 3 full days of working the expo so even tho the food wasn't quite what we'd wanted to get, having
    the calmer atmosphere was worth it.

    Just a chance to relax and eat something to hold you until you get home. Restaurantss/cafes are, to me, more social places. If the food is good,
    that's a bonus.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    Butter and grill both halves of an English muffin to a
    light gold appearance.

    Place both halves of the English muffin on a plate,
    buttered side up.

    Place 2 strips of cooked bacon on each English muffin
    half.

    Ladle 6 oz of cheese sauce on one English muffin half.

    Ladle 6 oz of sausage gravy on the other English muffin
    half.

    Cover entire plate with freshly cooked hash brown.

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    Recipe from: http://thomasbreakfastbattle.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 23 14:15:36 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather
    than a melanoma.

    Mine was DCIS--Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (IOW, in a milk duct). I have
    to make sure I get the annual check up. Reason it was caught at an
    early stage was that I'd put off my annual check up for 6 months, due
    to moving from HI to GA. Steve had an appointment at the Fort Stewart

    Learned something (re-learned, actually) when reading about cancer.
    Men can develop breast cancer even though they can't give milk.

    Yes, that's something I learned quite some time ago.

    cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting
    it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor
    standing conventrator.

    I don't know full details but do know last year at the VFW Christmas
    party he had to have someone go out and get a new tank; he commented
    about going thru several whenever he's out. I presume he has a floor
    model concentrator for home use.

    He must stay out for extended periods and at a hih flow rate. My pulmonoloist has reduced me to 2 LPM so I get a couple hours off a
    tank.

    The VFW event isn't quite 3 hours, don't know his prior health history
    so can't comment more.


    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    No, it didn't. I needed the quietness after 3 full days of working the expo so even tho the food wasn't quite what we'd wanted to get, having
    the calmer atmosphere was worth it.

    Just a chance to relax and eat something to hold you until you get
    home. Restaurantss/cafes are, to me, more social places. If the food
    is good, that's a bonus.

    It was ok, not great, but it filled the need for something quiet.


    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be
    able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jul 26 07:27:54 2025
    RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble
    getting myself wrapped around a full 'Shoe these days as my food intake
    has decreased. Some days even a Pony shoe can be an overload.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    1/2 lb Butter
    1 tb Salt
    1/4 lb (to 1/2 lb) flour
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper
    1 ts Dry mustard
    1 qt + 1 cup milk
    3 tb Worchestershire sauce
    3 lb Chopped Old English Cheddar
    - cheese
    1 pt Beer

    Tom McGee shared this recipe. Tom says, "This is the
    original recipe that I have from my bother-in-law,
    Joseph E. Schweska Jr., (which was his father's recipe)

    Melt butter, add flour and milk. Add rest of ingredients
    except beer. Stir constantly, while cooking, to a smooth
    cream sauce. Stir in beer to sauce just before serving.

    Makes 2 1/2 to 3 quarts.

    From: http://www.whatscookingamerica.net

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Jul 25 10:25:03 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Well, it was a small cancer. And squamous cell (slow growing) rather
    than a melanoma.

    Mine was DCIS--Ductal Carcinoma in Situ (IOW, in a milk duct). I have
    to make sure I get the annual check up. Reason it was caught at an
    early stage was that I'd put off my annual check up for 6 months, due
    to moving from HI to GA. Steve had an appointment at the Fort Stewart

    Learned something (re-learned, actually) when reading about cancer.
    Men can develop breast cancer even though they can't give milk.

    Yes, that's something I learned quite some time ago.

    cylinders?
    I keep on in the passenger side of my car. But, at 3 L flow setting
    it's good for more than an hour. And around home I'm on the floor
    standing conventrator.


    8<----- EDIT ----->8

    Some years ago we headed over to this place after working all day at a sewing/quilting expo. It was crowded and loud; I wanted someplace quiet
    so we ended up elsewhwere.

    As long as the food didn't send you to St. Elsewhere. Bv)=

    No, it didn't. I needed the quietness after 3 full days of working the expo so even tho the food wasn't quite what we'd wanted to get, having
    the calmer atmosphere was worth it.

    Just a chance to relax and eat something to hold you until you get
    home. Restaurantss/cafes are, to me, more social places. If the food
    is good, that's a bonus.

    It was ok, not great, but it filled the need for something quiet.


    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    1 English Muffin
    2 lg Eggs; cooked as desired
    4 sl Thick-cut bacon
    6 oz Cheese sauce
    6 oz Sausage gravy
    12 oz Shredded hash browns

    UDD Notes: I've et this critter. It's good. But, there
    are better (I think) breakfast shoes in Springfield.
    Nearly every breakfast joint around here has a version.
    The secret (if there is one) is in the cheese sauce and
    especially the sausage gravy.

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be
    able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Jul 26 14:53:25 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble getting myself wrapped around a full 'Shoe these days as my food
    intake has decreased. Some days even a Pony shoe can be an overload.

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.


    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    The beer would be a no go for me. I know, the alcohol cooks out but the
    hop flavor remains.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jul 28 06:36:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble getting myself wrapped around a full 'Shoe these days as my food
    intake has decreased. Some days even a Pony shoe can be an overload.

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.

    IOW an Egg McMuffin.

    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    The beer would be a no go for me. I know, the alcohol cooks out but the hop flavor remains.

    And is part of the flavour profile

    I really like this recipe - but I don't make it often since I don't
    drink beer at home and the other 5 cans of a six-pack take a lot of
    valuable space in the icebox.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Brussels Sprouts in Beer
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Beer
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 lb Brussels sprouts; fresh
    Beer; to cover
    1/2 ts Salt
    2 tb Butter

    Trim and wash sprouts. Place in a medium-size saucepan
    and pour enough beer over them to cover. Bring to a
    boil, reduce heat and simmer for 20 minutes or until
    tender.

    Add more beer if needed, as liquid evaporates. Drain;
    add salt and butter.

    Serve hot.

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Jul 28 14:39:52 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.

    IOW an Egg McMuffin.

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and
    cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the not
    so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to
    time, but I still would rather have the separate components.


    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    The beer would be a no go for me. I know, the alcohol cooks out but the hop flavor remains.

    And is part of the flavour profile

    Which neither Steve nor I like.


    I really like this recipe - but I don't make it often since I don't
    drink beer at home and the other 5 cans of a six-pack take a lot of valuable space in the icebox.


    Title: Brussels Sprouts in Beer
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Beer
    Yield: 2 Servings

    I like Brussels sprouts, most of the time roasted, with a drizzle of of balsamic vinegar and tossed with crumbled bacon. The only way Steve will
    eat them is thin shaved in a kale salad mix we've found at Sam's Club
    and Wegman's.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jul 29 14:59:47 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Canadian bacon (backbacon) and American cheese. The eggs are fresh eggs steamed on a grill using an egg ring.

    I've made several thousand of them in my time...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Red Lobster Copycat Biscuits
    Categories: Red, Lobster
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1 c Skim milk
    1/3 c Fat-free mayonnaise
    1 tb Sugar
    4 ts Baking powder
    2 c All-purpose flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Garlic powder
    2/3 c Grated cheddar cheese
    Liquid margarine

    Combine flour,sugar, baking powder, garlic powder, and salt in bowl.

    Add milk and mayonnaise. Mix with rubber spatula until not quite
    smooth, adding cheddar cheese when almost done mixing. Blend
    thoroughly into dough.

    Place blobs of dough on lightly greased cookie sheet.

    Give each blob one light spray of liquid margerine.

    Bake at 450 degrees about 25 minutes until golden. Posted to TNT -
    Prodigy's Recipe Exchange Newsletter 11 Jan 97

    Recipe by: Tim Champney

    From: Sherry Zeiss <zeiss@tab.com>

    Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:44:31 -0600

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jul 30 08:05:06 2025
    RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Title: Charlie Parker's Diner Breakfast Horseshoe
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Cheese, Sauces, Potatoes
    Yield: 1 Serving

    I don't know if I could eat all of this in one sitting. I'd probably be able to eat about half of it; does anybody do a smaller version?

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.

    IOW an Egg McMuffin.

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Mickey D's uses Canadian Bascon or breeakfast sausage as the meat, the
    cheese is "American" (mild Cheddar). The egg is just a hard-cooked egg
    done in a ring to make it round. The other fats food joints use pre-mix "scrambled" egg.

    Title: Chef Joe Schweska's Original Horseshoe Sauce Recipe
    Categories: Cheese, Beer, Sauces
    Yield: 3 Quarts

    The beer would be a no go for me. I know, the alcohol cooks out but the hop flavor remains.

    And is part of the flavour profile

    Which neither Steve nor I like.

    I've had cheese sauce both ways - and the real McCoy is much more to my
    liking.

    I really like this recipe - but I don't make it often since I don't
    drink beer at home and the other 5 cans of a six-pack take a lot of valuable space in the icebox.


    Title: Brussels Sprouts in Beer
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Beer
    Yield: 2 Servings

    I like Brussels sprouts, most of the time roasted, with a drizzle of of balsamic vinegar and tossed with crumbled bacon. The only way Steve
    will eat them is thin shaved in a kale salad mix we've found at Sam's
    Club and Wegman's.

    I always figured they were some sort of dwarf cabbage. I like 'em baked, broiled, fried, steamed, boilede, etc. Whole or halved. Never trie4d (that
    I know of) shaved.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Copycat Mcdonald's Egg Mcmuffin
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Cheese, Eggs
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 English muffin; split open
    1 tb Butter
    1 sl American cheese
    1 lg Egg
    pn Salt
    1/4 c Water
    1 sl Canadian bacon

    Toast both halves of the English muffin until they're
    golden brown. Spread the butter over the insides.

    Place the bottom of the English muffin on a plate and
    lay the slice of cheese over it.

    Lightly grease the inside of the egg ring with vegetable
    shortening or oil, then set the egg ring on your nonstick
    skillet. Let the skillet and ring get good and hot over
    medium heat. Crack the egg into the egg ring and use a
    fork or the tip of a knife to pierce the yolk. Sprinkle
    the salt over the egg.

    Here's the big secret that I learned from a family
    friend, Oliver Alvarez, who works at McDonald's: Add
    steam. Trapping steam around the egg while it cooks
    helps it set quickly, and gives it a puffy, light
    texture. To do this, pour a bit of water in the pan
    around the outside of the egg ring and cover with a lid.
    Let the egg cook for about three minutes until it's set.
    Remove the pan from the heat, and gently lift the egg
    ring to reveal your cooked, perfectly round egg.

    Use a spatula to move the egg onto the cheese slice on
    the muffin.

    Add the Canadian bacon slice to the still-hot skillet
    and cook it for one minute on each side. Slide the hot
    bacon on top of the egg. Add the top half of the English
    muffin to complete the sandwich, and enjoy it while it's
    hot!

    HOW DO I GET THE PERFECT ROUND EGG? Look for metal egg
    rings with a little heft (instead of lightweight
    silicone). The extra weight will help prevent the egg
    white from seeping under the bottom. Make sure you let
    the skillet and egg ring get hot before adding the egg.
    The heat will quickly set the egg white, which helps
    keep it in the egg ring.

    If you don't want to use an egg ring, look around your
    kitchen! Round cookie cutters (make sure they're heat-
    resistant) and Mason jar lids can work just as well as
    an egg ring. Whichever method you're using, be sure to
    grease the egg ring generously (as well as the pan). If
    you really want to experiment, you can also use a thick
    onion ring slice as an egg ring but the egg may not
    release from the onion.

    Nancy Mock, Horse Apple, Vermont

    Makes: 1 serving

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.tasteofhome.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wed Jul 30 19:40:54 2025
    Hi Sean,


    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Canadian bacon (backbacon) and American cheese. The eggs are fresh
    eggs steamed on a grill using an egg ring.

    OK, I don't like Canadian bacon as much as regular bacon and the
    American stuff I can't even call cheese. My parents used to buy that for
    cheese (just cheese and white bread) or toasted cheese sandwiches; when
    Steve and I got married, we bought nothing but the real thing.

    I've made several thousand of them in my time...

    But how many have you eaten? (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Junk: stuff we throw away. Stuff: junk we keep.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wed Jul 30 20:08:24 2025
    Hi Dave,

    They offer a "Pony" version - appoximatel;y half-sized. I have trouble

    Which means I'd probably be better off ordering something else. Egg,
    meat and English muffin, probably but no potatoes or cheese sauce.

    IOW an Egg McMuffin.

    No, I prefer them as separate items. I'm not sure what kind of meat and cheese McD's uses but I don't care for the way they combine with the
    not so great egg on the muffin. We've made our own version from time to time, but I still would rather have the separate components.

    Mickey D's uses Canadian Bascon or breeakfast sausage as the meat, the cheese is "American" (mild Cheddar). The egg is just a hard-cooked egg done in a ring to make it round. The other fats food joints use
    pre-mix "scrambled" egg.

    I'd rather have a good extra sharp cheddar, slice of ham or sausage on
    the side and scrambled eggs, grits or wheat toast. Or, instead of the
    eggs, cheese and meat separate, an omelette with all of them or veggies.

    I really like this recipe - but I don't make it often since I don't
    drink beer at home and the other 5 cans of a six-pack take a lot of valuable space in the icebox.


    Title: Brussels Sprouts in Beer
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Beer
    Yield: 2 Servings

    I like Brussels sprouts, most of the time roasted, with a drizzle of of balsamic vinegar and tossed with crumbled bacon. The only way Steve
    will eat them is thin shaved in a kale salad mix we've found at Sam's
    Club and Wegman's.

    I always figured they were some sort of dwarf cabbage. I like 'em
    baked, broiled, fried, steamed, boilede, etc. Whole or halved. Never trie4d (that I know of) shaved.

    Check out some of the prepackaged salad mixes; that's where we find the
    shaved sprouts.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Not all questions worth asking have answers...

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jul 31 15:45:22 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    But how many have you eaten? (G)

    BNot that m,any. I usually got my breaks after 10:30 AM which is when
    McD's switches to lunch on the weekdays. On weekends, it's 11 AM but my manager would often give me weekends off because I was older and she
    "had lots of teenagers to work".

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Mcdonald's Big Mac Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Beef, Copycat
    Yield: 2 Cups

    1 c Miracle Whip
    1/3 c Sweet relish
    1/4 c French dressing (orange not
    -red)
    1 tb Sugar
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1 ts Minced onion

    Mix ingredients well. Posted to MM-Recipes Digest V3 #282.

    Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:25:01 -0400

    From: BobbieB1@aol.com

    MMMMM

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