The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Sometimes posted as Zazz in Fidonet
RIP
The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Sometimes posted as Zazz in Fidonet
RIP
The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Sometimes posted as Zazz in Fidonet
RIP
02 Feb 25 15:23, LEE GREEN dijo a ALL:
The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Sometimes posted as Zazz in Fidonet
RIP
The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed away
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Damn! Sorry to hear this. Ruben was one of three (myself included) sysops who still ran Spitfire! BBS up until its kill switch brought the fun to an end on Jan 1 2025. RIP my friend!
The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has
passed away
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Fidonet sysop? ??
kill switch?
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Fidonet sysop? ??
Yes he ran like 9 different Prison Board BBS software bbs's all with Fidonet,
sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.
LEE GREEN wrote to Ward Dossche <=-
The name sounded familiar. So I went searching for him in the nodelist lookup
facility and for whatever reason (probably my own doing) I failed to locate
his
name. hence the question.
Today it works and I see several entries. Mesquite TX.
I never wined about his handle.
Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from
Ward Dossche 10/11/24
Is it really so difficult to use your real name?
and he replied:
No, its not..Ruben Figueroa
...sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his
handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.
...I never wined about his handle.
Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from Ward Dossche 10/11/24...
Ward hates it when facts get in the way of what he says he said (or
didn't say).
BAM!!! ;-)
Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Ward hates it when facts get in the way of what he says he said (or
didn't say).
You must be American ... look op "whining" as opposed to "wining" ...
LEE GREEN wrote to Ward Dossche <=-
...sometimes he posted as ZaZZ in fact you wined when he used his
handle as opposed to using Ruben Figueroa.
...I never wined about his handle.
Why would I say it if it wasn't true here's the message to Zazz from Ward...
Dossche 10/11/24
That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?
Sorry no spellchecker on this program, but you know what I meant.
That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?
Sorry no spellchecker on this program, but you know what I meant.
Ward Dossche wrote to LEE GREEN <=-
That's "whining" ... not "wining"... I hope you understand the difference?
Sorry no spellchecker on this program, but you know what I meant.
I know what you meant, I also know what you wrote and a spell checker would not have made a difference ... "wining" would not have been
flagged.
Aw c'mon, Lee, this was just a humorous interjection ... not the end of the world.
Just enjoy the word play ...
Only you and the Swedish meat-head find that humorous.
Just enjoy the word play ...
It wasn't "word play". It was you being petty and mean, for no reason other than you seem to enjoy doing that.
Dan,
Ward hates it when facts get in the way of what he says he said
(or didn't say).
You must be American ... look op "whining" as opposed to "wining" ...
BAM!!! ;-)
Really ... good thing you're not a fish because you wouldn't live
long:
* Baited in the morning
* Caught at noon
* Eaten by evening..
\%/@rd
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The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed awa
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Fidonet sysop? ??
\%/@rd
Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Ward Dossche <=-
By: Ward Dossche to LEE GREEN on Tue Feb 04 2025 05:46 pm
The longtime sysop of Prison Board BBS out of Mesquite,TX has passed awa
Ruben Figueroa, 73yrs
Fidonet sysop? ??
Yes, and a really cool guy. (yes, old message).
Fidonet sysop? ??
Yes, and a really cool guy. (yes, old message).
Carol,
Fidonet sysop? ??
Yes, and a really cool guy. (yes, old message).
In the case of old messages, perhaps check if someone already
provided an answer because otherwise this is pretty useless..
\%/@rd
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Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.
And you could use a proper FTN editor, rather than a hopelessly outdated Usenet ditto that addresses a comment to All rather than to the actual writer.
Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than raggingWard has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.
on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.
Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the momen he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outrigh anger. Dictators are bad people.
And you could use a proper FTN editor, rather than a hopelessly outdated Usenet ditto that addresses a comment to All rather than to the actual writer.
Ohhh touchy.
Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.
OK...maybe MRO...maybe they're brothers or something. :)
But the moment Ward's system stops producing your nodelist you wouldI can live without Zone 2 nodelists. =)
be quick to call him incompetent, right?
I can live without Zone 2 nodelists. =)
Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging AG>NR> on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge
with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.
a hopelessly outdated Usenet
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And you are perfectly capable of documenting that dictatorship?Yes, 31 years in power, while making your own rules.
Also the 2 cases where I was taken to court over Fido matters and won?How can this justify your dictatorship? Unrelated to this conversation.
You are aware how Fidonet came together to crowd-fund my legal bills?
Even Janis Kracht?
Let me get rid of this sillusion of yours ... there is 'no' power in Fidonet. Only resposabilities.Correct. But when you fail to fulfill your responsibilities under the Fidonet policy, what is that called?
Also the 2 cases where I was taken to court over Fido matters and won?
You are aware how Fidonet came together to crowd-fund my legal bills?
Alex Galiyev wrote to Ward Dossche <=-
Let me get rid of this sillusion of yours ... there is 'no' power in Fidonet. Only resposabilities.
Correct. But when you fail to fulfill your responsibilities under the Fidonet policy, what is that called?
Should I remind you how you refused to respond to the illegal excommunication appeal back in the 90s and simply let things slide? Do
you know that at least a dozen users - left Fidonet because of your negligence related to this case?
That sounds about right. He should have been re-elected years ago.the Fidonet policy, what is that called?I'd call it "dereliction of duty".
Should I remind you how you refused to respond to the illegal excommunication appeal back in the 90s and simply let things slide? Do
you know that at least a dozen users - left Fidonet because of your negligence related to this case?
Actually, Ward - hold on. I wasn't familiar with the HH Belgium case, and there isn't much information online, but it closely mirrors my situation with Alex Barinov (N5020C) and my excommunication from Z2, where you refused my appeal and sided with the regional authority in Russia.
Would you be interested in filing another lawsuit? This time it would be
in the United States - you'd need to fly here, and legal fees could
exceed several thousand dollars.
I'd call it "dereliction of duty".That sounds about right. He should have been re-elected years ago.
totally useless to deal with formal complaint appeal-case where theI know - you'd simply let people go without figuring out what happened. That's Ward's style of dealing with problems: just ignore them. Do you think that's a strong leadership position?
2) Fidonet history tracks do not list you in the nodelist in theI just Googled "Fidonet nodelist history," clicked the first link (https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua), and found:
1990-ies
:and you needed some 30 years to speak out?No. I brought it up multiple times. In our last fight, Janis pretty much told Barinov to go f**k himself and denied his requests to delist me in Z1, saying: "We don't do things like this here."
That sounds about right. He should have been re-elected years ago.Actually once elected and twice re-elected. So that satisfies your request.
With leaders like you, Fidonet is in the worst possible shape right now.
I remember what it was in the 90s, and I know what it is now. You're one
of causes of Fidonet's degradation.
Different spelling of my last name, but still.
This was a very high-profile case in Z2 N5020 back then. You simply
ignored my messages.
What I expected from you was to be a middleman in this case - and you simply vanished. Don't you think every excommunication should be reviewed SERIOUSLY with the most attention, especially by Z2C?
A simple apology will be enough.
Ward Dossche wrote to Alex Galiyev <=-
A *C is mainly a nodelist-scribe. For anything else please pay me a
salary if you think it is a job.
Gosh ... that's a long time since I've heard thatone.
Even your hero Janis Kracht couldn't stop it ...
It's very interesting to hear all this from a man who tried to hijackThis is what Barinov told everyone. There was no hijacking, the node which was marked as Down, simply agreed to transfer it to me, then he changed his mind. Who is the victim here?
a good node number in 5020 by providing a fake email from her
ex-sysop, from which this stupid one didn't even bother to remove his
Even your hero Janis Kracht couldn't stop it ...
Just recently, I dreamed that she and I were sitting and discussing the link between our nodes...
I'll share a good beer with you at any time but please stayWhat do Belgians know about good beer? =)
reasonable.
Hello Nigel!
Wednesday May 28 2025 05:29, you wrote to All:
NR> Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging
NR> on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.
Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.
Alex
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Something similar happened in Z4. We stopped being represented by theIn Z2 most votes come from Russia - they always respected dictatorship and authority, they treat Putin and Ward like a king.
ZC and called for elections ourselves. Those who wanted to maintain Fidonet decided to choose a new one. Why don't they call elections and nominate other actors?
Gosh ... that's a long time since I've heard thatone.I understand the underlying issues, but this is not what I asked. I asked what have you done to improve Fidonet (besides compiling a nodelist)?
OK, suppose you're right, then how do you explain a parallel drop in
Z1, the reduction of Z3, the dissappearance of zones5 and 6? All of it
my fault too?
Even your hero Janis Kracht couldn't stop it ...
I understand the underlying issues, but this is not what I asked. I
asked what have you done to improve Fidonet (besides compiling a nodelist)?
I would:
- Limit terms of *C to four years, with a maximum of two terms in a lifetime.
- Work with developers like me to create new software that eases
access to Fidonet.
- Register a worldwide non-commercial organization for Fidonet to own fidonet.org and other Fidonet resources.
- Promote Fidonet.
- Amend Fidonet policy.
Should I go drink beer and relax again?
telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-
it sounds good, but we don't have so many sysops who is:This part I already covered in the "Promote Fidonet".
Then tell me who should do this? A decent *C should be interested in doing this, this position is not only for compiling nodelists. For example, Z1C has his own mailer D'Bridge which is still maintained.- Work with developers like me to create new software that easeswhy would any *C should do this?
It's never too late. =)- Register a worldwide non-commercial organization for Fidonet toyou've been late 30-40 years
own fidonet.org and other Fidonet resources.
Yes, but what will you offer?- Promote Fidonet.anyone can promote fidonet
Correct, it should be, right now it's a one-man show.- Amend Fidonet policy.it's not a one-man show, fidonet is/should be a community.
it sounds good, but we don't have so many sysops who is:This part I already covered in the "Promote Fidonet".
- Work with developers like me to create new software that eases
why would any *C should do this?Then tell me who should do this? A decent *C should be interested in
doing this, this position is not only for compiling nodelists. For example, Z1C has his own mailer D'Bridge which is still maintained.
- Promote Fidonet.
anyone can promote fidonetYes, but what will you offer?
- Amend Fidonet policy.
it's not a one-man show, fidonet is/should be a community.Correct, it should be, right now it's a one-man show.
telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-
Hello Alex,
01 Jun 25 21:37, you wrote to Ward Dossche:
I understand the underlying issues, but this is not what I
asked. I asked what have you done to improve Fidonet (besides
compiling a nodelist)?
am i the only one who never had problems with Ward or fidonet at all?
Z2 works, Z1 works, Z3 ok, Z4 had issues but now ok, so i don't see
what are you claiming about? ofc Ward can be spicy, but that's just
one thing. you can use a twitlist for example and bamm you don't see
him.
I would:
- Limit terms of *C to four years, with a maximum of two terms
in a lifetime.
it sounds good, but we don't have so many sysops who is:
- have the technical knowledge
- have the time
- have the intention
- etc..
- Work with developers like me to create new software that eases
access to Fidonet.
why would any *C should do this?
- Register a worldwide non-commercial organization for Fidonet
to own fidonet.org and other Fidonet resources.
you've been late 30-40 years
- Promote Fidonet.
anyone can promote fidonet
- Amend Fidonet policy.
it's not a one-man show, fidonet is/should be a community.
Should I go drink beer and relax again?
umm... maybeee? :)
Hello Nigel!
Wednesday May 28 2025 05:29, you wrote to All:
Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than raggingWard has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.
on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.
Alex
On 28 May 25 11:11:55, Alex Galiyev said the following to Nigel Reed:
Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the mo he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outr anger. Dictators are bad people.
But the moment Ward's system stops producing your nodelist you would be quic to call him incompetent, right?
Nick
Alex,
Or you could just mind your business and move on rather than ragging AG>NR> on anyone and everyone that posts anything to FN_SYSOP.Ward has ruled Zone 2 like a dictator, abusing his authority from the moment he was elected. After 31 years as Z2C, he greets any challenge with outright anger. Dictators are bad people.
And you are perfectly capable of documenting that dictatorship?
Also the 2 cases where I was taken to court over Fido matters and won? You a aware how Fidonet came together to crowd-fund my legal bills? Even Janis Kracht?
Let me get rid of this sillusion of yours ... there is 'no' power in Fidonet Only resposabilities.
Take care,
\%/@rd
not everyone is a software developer. you can develop anything forI agree, but all it takes is an effort to find a development team. No one has ever inquired about it, this is how the degradation started.
i think what not help is someone who flames through different echoes within the same topic. this is tipically the thing why a huge amountFlames? This is very inaccurate, whistleblowing - yes, revealing a tyrant is a good thing.
of people moves to othernets or just quit bbsing.Are there any othernets left? =))
don't misunderstand me, i dont want to protect Ward and i'm prettyUnderstood. My criticism of his ZC duties implies: total ignorance, not taking excommunication cases seriously, him asking to pay him a salary and much more. Reasonable?
sure that he can defend himself, and also i'm pretty sure he deserves
some flame, but criticism of him as a ZC is something bizarre.
Hey Alexander,
Even your hero Janis Kracht couldn't stop it ...
Just recently, I dreamed that she and I were sitting and discussing the link between our nodes...
I'm probably the onlyone that went out of his way to go visit her.
\%/@rd
Hello Fernando!
Sunday June 01 2025 21:26, you wrote to All:
Something similar happened in Z4. We stopped being represented by the ZC and called for elections ourselves. Those who wanted to maintain Fidonet decided to choose a new one. Why don't they call elections and nominate other actors?In Z2 most votes come from Russia - they always respected dictatorship and authority, they treat Putin and Ward like a king.
This is why Ward never wanted to change Fidonet Policy to limit the terms to years. Ward also respects an authority, so he kept Barinov in power to a lon time.
If you try to complaint about anything - you will simply be ignored or be to - to go drink beer.
Alex
Hello Daniel!
Monday June 02 2025 13:12, you wrote to me:
it sounds good, but we don't have so many sysops who is:This part I already covered in the "Promote Fidonet".
Then tell me who should do this? A decent *C should be interested in doing this, this position is not only for compiling nodelists. For example, Z1C ha his own mailer D'Bridge which is still maintained.- Work with developers like me to create new software that easeswhy would any *C should do this?
It's never too late. =)- Register a worldwide non-commercial organization for Fidonet toyou've been late 30-40 years
own fidonet.org and other Fidonet resources.
Yes, but what will you offer?- Promote Fidonet.anyone can promote fidonet
Correct, it should be, right now it's a one-man show.- Amend Fidonet policy.it's not a one-man show, fidonet is/should be a community.
Alex
not everyone is a software developer. you can develop anythingI agree, but all it takes is an effort to find a development team. No
for
one has ever inquired about it, this is how the degradation started.
i think what not help is someone who flames through differentFlames? This is very inaccurate, whistleblowing - yes, revealing a
echoes within the same topic. this is tipically the thing why a
huge amount
tyrant is a good thing.
of people moves to othernets or just quit bbsing.Are there any othernets left? =))
don't misunderstand me, i dont want to protect Ward and i'mUnderstood. My criticism of his ZC duties implies: total ignorance,
pretty sure that he can defend himself, and also i'm pretty sure
he deserves some flame, but criticism of him as a ZC is something
bizarre.
not taking excommunication cases seriously, him asking to pay him a
salary and much more. Reasonable?
Bizarre is when he allows nodelist entries like this, when Crimea
belongs to
Ukraine: Pvt,16,Aelita_Station,Simferopol_Russia,Vlad_Shvedovich,-Unpu blished-,300
telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-
I remember Janis shipping you a very expensive type of HD at one point
when you
needed it. It's sad some folks can't remember the good too. It was a HD right? Maybe a raid array? Something like 15 years ago.
I agree, no power, just responsibilities.
I agree, but all it takes is an effort to find a development team. No one has ever inquired about it, this is how the degradation started.
Understood. My criticism of his ZC duties implies: total ignorance, not taking excommunication cases seriously, him asking to pay him a salary
and much more. Reasonable?
Bizarre is when he allows nodelist entries like this, when Crimea belongs to Ukraine: Pvt,16,Aelita_Station,Simferopol_Russia,Vlad_Shvedovich,-Unpublished-,300
why not check your Z1C mate who makes fun of all the nodelist flags on othernets and ruining the fidonet nodelist with his friends... just because because its funny to troll the "nodelist police"+Ward... i think its
You want new exciting things to be produced?Yes, I will write my own software. Thank you for the advice. My question was: what have you done - like asking the public to help to develop a software to improve something? But getting an answer from you is as hard as improvising. Forget about it. Ward doesn't change.
Write them yourself, distribute them, see if people like it in which
We're not going to have a war imported here ... it happened previouslyPlease confirm that this photo of you is not a deepfake and that you are wearing a hat with a Ukrainian shield.
not everyone is a software developer. you can develop anything forI agree, but all it takes is an effort to find a development team. No one has ever inquired about it, this is how the degradation started.
My question
was: what have you done - like asking the public to help to develop a software to improve something? But getting an answer from you is as hard
as improvising. Forget about it. Ward doesn't change.
Please confirm that this photo of you is not a deepfake and that you are wearing a hat with a Ukrainian shield.
https://traditio.wiki/files/f/fd/Ward_Dossche.jpg
Original page: https://traditio.wiki/%D0%92%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4
If there are a group of developers who want to advance/improve doThanks man, I will keep you in mind.
things better, then I'm in.
bought that fur hat with the insignia of Ukrainian air defenses. ThatVery interesting story, do you still have this shield? =)
was 1997 ... 28 years ago. Dirt cheap ...
was a mind boggling realisation how well we have it in the west...Indeed. Russians never cared about their own people.
Very interesting story, do you still have this shield? =)
And suddenly that hat and the shield have meaning in today's world.And it means a lot to me too. Since you didn't throw it away, means that you don't support Russians.
And it means a lot to me too. Since you didn't throw it away, means that you don't support Russians.
I still don't understand why you didn't exclude R50 from Fidonet, where
95% of the people are Nazis and supporting the war.
I wish I could have a drink with you to tell you what happened with my excommunication case. You would most likely find similarities with the Ukrainian war.
We're not going to have a war imported here ... it happened previouslyWell spoken and mighty fine.
and I'd appreciate it not to happen anymore. We are sysops united by a hobby.
Shall we kick the USA because some don't like Trump? Or Canada because there are french speaking people there?Trump hasn't invaded any countries (yet), and the U.S. wasn't labeled a state sponsor of terrorism - unlike Russia by the EU.
Go get a life please ...My life is great, and I will not live it in ignorance like you.
you were discussing penis-lengthsWard, keep your pedo fantasies to yourself - no one wants to hear this sh1t, pervert. =)
Alex Galiyev wrote to Ward Dossche <=-
you were discussing penis-lengths
Ward, keep your pedo fantasies to yourself - no one wants to hear this sh1t, pervert. =)
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