all,

I was thinking it might be a good idea to reduce the number of automated postings here?

Second. There are multiple boards that I wish I could unsubscribe from because they're just bots posting news articles or reposting the topic of that board.

-̹ƒlian

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Hello MeaTLoTioN!

I actually know what you mean about replies and discussion would be
lost amongst the automated posts, when I made that base the sole
intention of it was to provide news about tech automatically to anyone wanting to read it, and discussions coming from a post would be
seen/read the same as any other post in other bases.

I forget the fidonet terminolgy, (it's been a long day) but isn't there still a way to reply/quote in a differnet echo?

So the great articles still keep coming in, but discussions around them take place in another echo?
We don't really see that kinda thing active anymore but it used to work well on some "announement" echos that I used to frequent.

The frequency of posts is based on the RSS feeds that are being
scraped, so if there isn't much tech news one day, then posts would be fewer.

I'll have a think about ways to make it less aggressive or frequent, I could poll the RSS feeds less frequently but it'd still pull the same amount of news, just would mean there would be more unread messages
each time it polls.

We appreciate you!

Louis


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On 05 Aug 2024, Satchmo said the following...

I forget the fidonet terminolgy, (it's been a long day) but isn't there still a way to reply/quote in a differnet echo?

So the great articles still keep coming in, but discussions around them take place in another echo?
We don't really see that kinda thing active anymore but it used to work well on some "announement" echos that I used to frequent.

Actually Mystic has this functionality which people may have overlooked with their muscle memory.
When you hit R to reply to a message you get this show up (in mystic)

° Message Reply

Area: TQW: Suggestions Box
To: Satchmo
Subject: Limiting bot posts?

Reply area (ENTER) Current, (B)ase, (E)mail, (Q)uit?

If you press ENTER it just replies in the current base, but you can choose the base to reply in with `B`
Thanks for triggering my memory also!

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I was thinking it might be a good idea to reduce the number of automated postings here?

Looking at my BBS with a little over a year of messages:

Sub # Name # Posts Latest date & time
1 BBS Adverts 1476 2024-07-25 14:59:36
2 Docker Chat 60 2024-06-11 19:33:25
3 General BBS Chat 93 2024-04-15 13:23:04
4 General Chat 354 2024-07-22 16:49:22 * 5 Tech Discussions 8466 2024-07-25 16:15:05
6 General Science News 1779 2024-07-25 11:17:33
7 Linux 769 2024-07-25 09:30:05
8 Mac OS X 14 2024-05-20 06:35:51
9 MBSE BBS Chat 6 2024-05-25 17:03:46
10 Mystic BBS Chat 68 2024-06-10 17:36:11
11 Mystic BBS Development 9 2024-07-25 15:55:18
12 Python General Chat 9 2024-07-24 15:38:22
13 Raspberry Pi 57 2024-07-06 17:16:58
14 roBOT output 1212 2024-06-08 06:31:29
15 Suggestions Box 0 1969-12-31 16:00:00
16 Synchronet BBS Chat 31 2023-10-23 19:10:01
17 Test Echo 308 2024-07-06 07:06:01


It's easy to see which echoes have automated postings of web news articles and which ones don't. It makes it hard, IMO, to sort out the conversations from the












automated posts (that lead you off of the echoes and less likely to reply)

Tech Discussions is an echo where I'd like to see some conversations going on, but any human replies would be drowned out by the automated postings.

Just a thought...

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On 25 Jul 2024, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

all,

I was thinking it might be a good idea to reduce the number of automated postings here?

It's easy to see which echoes have automated postings of web news
articles and which ones don't. It makes it hard, IMO, to sort out the conversations from the automated posts (that lead you off of the echoes and less likely to reply)

Tech Discussions is an echo where I'd like to see some conversations
going on, but any human replies would be drowned out by the automated postings.

Agree!!

A possible option is to divide Tech into the current respository AND a new Tech












Commentary sort of echo where scripted/bot posts would be discouraged.

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On 25 Jul 2024, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

all,

I was thinking it might be a good idea to reduce the number of automated postings here?

It's easy to see which echoes have automated postings of web news
articles and which ones don't. It makes it hard, IMO, to sort out the conversations from the automated posts (that lead you off of the echoes and less likely to reply)

Tech Discussions is an echo where I'd like to see some conversations
going on, but any human replies would be drowned out by the automated postings.

Just a thought...

Thanks for the feedback, the "Tech Discussions" message base is actually called












"General Tech News", there's also one called "General Science News" that is set












up the same way, and their entire reason for existing _was_ to share tech (and science) news scraped from all over into one place for me and others to be able












to see.

I actually know what you mean about replies and discussion would be lost amongst the automated posts, when I made that base the sole intention of it was












to provide news about tech automatically to anyone wanting to read it, and discussions coming from a post would be seen/read the same as any other post in












other bases.

The frequency of posts is based on the RSS feeds that are being scraped, so if there isn't much tech news one day, then posts would be fewer.

I'll have a think about ways to make it less aggressive or frequent, I could poll the RSS feeds less frequently but it'd still pull the same amount of news,












just would mean there would be more unread messages each time it polls.

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Re: Re: Limiting bot posts?
By: MeaTLoTioN to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jul 26 2024 02:40 pm

Thanks for the feedback, the "Tech Discussions" message base is actually called "General Tech News", there's also one called "General Science News" that is set up the same way, and their entire reason for existing _was_ to share tech (and science) news scraped from all over into one place for me an others to be able to see.

That makes sense - I'll name mine to be consistent with your names, and that'll












make it clearer that they're a place for news articles.

In that case, the frequency is fine, since people won't be trying to have person-to-person conversations there.
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Hi all, I am new to tqwnet, first I would like to say hi!.

Actually Mystic has this functionality which people may have overlooked with their muscle memory.
When you hit R to reply to a message you get this show up (in mystic)

Reply area (ENTER) Current, (B)ase, (E)mail, (Q)uit?

When I read the first post I was thinking of the same thing, however I am not sure how all the other BBS's work, and if the can reply to to another base.

I like the idea of the tech bases posting news from the net, however yes filtering discussions, if any would be a task.

I don't know how an echo hub works per say, but is there a way to set up the hub that if any replies to that base happens, could the hub move it to another base like "Tech (discussions)". Which would allow someone to reply to a post with comment about the post, and still be able to use features like quoting.

I hope that makes sense.

Lloyd (neoshock) sysop @ Vintage Pi BBS
vintagepi.asuscomm.com

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On 23 Aug 2024, neoshock said the following...

Hi all, I am new to tqwnet, first I would like to say hi!.

Actually Mystic has this functionality which people may have overlook with their muscle memory.
When you hit R to reply to a message you get this show up (in mystic)

Reply area (ENTER) Current, (B)ase, (E)mail, (Q)uit?

When I read the first post I was thinking of the same thing, however I
am not sure how all the other BBS's work, and if the can reply to to another base.

I like the idea of the tech bases posting news from the net, however yes filtering discussions, if any would be a task.

I don't know how an echo hub works per say, but is there a way to set up the hub that if any replies to that base happens, could the hub move it
to another base like "Tech (discussions)". Which would allow someone to reply to a post with comment about the post, and still be able to use features like quoting.

I hope that makes sense.

It does make sense, and in Mystic (and I assume other BBSes too), when you press R for reply, the first option you get presented with is press ENTER to reply in the current base, or press B to choose a new base. It's all relative to the client, not the hub however what you suggest is absolutely possible using this above method, replying to a message but into a different message base.

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I like the idea of the tech bases posting news from the net, however yes filtering discussions, if any would be a task.

³
³ Meanwhile, I'm sick of news posts spamming up the various echoes/bases with
³ no engagement. >w<
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³
³ Meanwhile, I'm sick of news posts spamming up the various echoes/bases with ³ no engagement. >w<

Noone can be engaged with 100+ new posts daily without any moderation... this is just random spam while engagement can only come from carefully curated content + animation.

I don't mind bot posting in such numbers... I occasionally browse ther to check random 20 and follow-up with a link... but rarely this is the place I think about replying and having discussions.. rather reposting link with own intro commentary to trigger any sort of discussion elsewhere.

-h1

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