Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 27.03.2024 14:44

ak>> The US fights with Russia by others hands. It is more
ak>> convenient.
WD>
WD> In view of the fact that Russia can't even deal with the
WD> Ukrainian army, it should be relieved it is not fighting the
WD> USA (and in extension NATO) because if one thing is understood
WD> by now it is that the Russian ground forces are mediocre and
WD> only succeed because of the numbers, its airforce outdated and
WD> its Black Sea fleet a joke. Russia can only wield nuclear
WD> threats,and that is where it ends.

Well, probably US and NATO have very good armies. They demonstrated it
by bombing defenceless cities around the world. They are good to kill defenceless enemy in the desert after grounding its position with
impunity. There was one real war however, in Vietnam, and the USA ran
away from it with a bloody nose.

Bye, Ward!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 28.03.2024 04:21

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ak>> Jihadists are, before all other things, religious fanatics --

LL> Who is, or is not, a "religious fanatic"? Do MAGA idiots qualify?
LL> After all, Donald Trump claims to be another Jesus Christ. And he
LL> may be. At least to his MAGA crowd.

Well, you can see that MAGA fanatics are not mercenaries. They stormed
the Capitol not for money, but for some idea and their view of justice.
And being caught they clearly told the court about their motives.

The Crocus terrorists also could tell about their ideological motives.
But there weren't any. Indeed their faces were not looked intact after
the capturing procedure, but it was not a multy-years torture by
drowning as it does the US with the suspects in Guantanamo.

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LL> Get real. None of Trump's followers were afraid to say their
LL> slogans on January 6. In fact, none of Trump's followers were
LL> afraid to act out their own fantasies.

Yes.

LL> Let's do keep this in mind.
LL> Trump's followers did their patriotic duty on January 6. And Trump
LL> has publicly stated that he will forgove them all. Once he takes
LL> the oath of office. Again.

Well, it depends on the point of view. If you claim that the events in
Kiev 2014 were perfectly legal, you can easily say that the entering the Capitol was just a people protest.

LL> So who are the real "terrorists"? Do they even exist?

We say not about terrorists in general, but about religious IS fanatics
-- the people who allegedly committed the attack on Crocus.

LL> One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
LL> Which shoe fits your foot?

Those captured said nothing about motives, accepting that they said that
it was done for money.

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ak>> The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall have
ak>> been captured and they said quite different things.

LL> Some guys. Picked up for questioning. Saying whatever their captors
LL> want them to say, in order to stop getting tortured. How does that
LL> get any real answers as to who really did it, and why?

Why do you think that the motive "we did it for money" is more
acceptable for FSB than "we did it because we fight with damn infidels"?
Is there a good reason for torture? ;-)

ak>> They only have said that they did this terror act for money.

LL> See there? They fessed up. Somebody paid their bar tab. And you
LL> know how it is in Russian pubs. Nobody keeps their receipts.

If the US, with its spying technology, wanted -- it could easily tell
who paid them, who called them, from where, and even to give the
dialogues printed copy. But the contents of this dialogues probably
exclude this possibility. ;-)

LL> You do not understand. Not really your fault. Probably because you
LL> are an old coot. As most everybody else in fidonet. Please. I am
LL> not trying to insult you. Merely stating what no old coot publicly
LL> wants to admit. So here is what really happened -

LL> The harem was full, and it was during ramadan. So we all know what
LL> every Muslim fanatic was doing - or dreaming about doing - on that
LL> fafeful night.

Yes, Ramanan is another reason why they were not Muslim fanatics.

LL> What is a young stud who is unable to find 72 virgins at a music
LL> concert to do? Remember, these guys are young. And they are horny
LL> as hell. And fully loaded.

LL> At least they did not take hostages, as Hamas did in Gaza.

Taking into account that every Jewish family in Israel has machine-guns
in their homes, and they all are army reservists including women, they
were lucky to stay alive.

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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There was one real war however, in Vietnam, and the USA ran
away from it with a bloody nose.

Contrary to what you may believe, the US were not defeated. It's just the political situation at home which made them pull-out ... probably you were too young then, over even inexistant even.

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x) Wednesday Mar 27, 2024, 09:36. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.

But it will not bad to search for the truth yourself. And the
truth is that Russia is actually fighting with the most accursed
enemy of IS -- the US, and it would be strange for IS to attack
Russia, especially while it has not given to IS any pretext for
it.

It has given. For example, Russia supported anti-IS forces in
Syria, killed many jihadists there.

The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall have been captured and they said quite different things. They only have said that they did this terror act for money. So, they are not religious fanatics, they are just mercenaries. Now Russia is finding out who was the client and for whom the event was most profitable.

It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian migrants instead of real terrorists...

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It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian migrants instead of real terrorists...

... and torture them to near-death so they'll confess to anything ...

Let's look at this, when you commit such a crime in Moscow, you ought to be prepared to die ... the real killers most likely got away.

Amazing that out of the blue, real quick, four guys hundreds of km from Moscow are arrested ... just like that ... by an FSB which was totally unprepared ...

I think the Russian people are lied to by its leadership ... again ... losing count ...

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alexander koryagin wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

The US fights with Russia by others hands. It is more convenient.

It sure beats the 1980s war plan of a land war in Europe, Soviet tanks
running through the Fulda gap into NATO countries, stalemate and
limited nuclear exchange. The dead in that scenario would find the
current situation preferable.



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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 28.03.2024 12:10

AS>>>>> Only a madman could trust Putin or FSB now.
ak>>>> But it will not bad to search for the truth
ak>>>> yourself. And the truth is that Russia is actually
ak>>>> fighting with the most accursed enemy of IS -- the
ak>>>> US, and it would be strange for IS to attack
ak>>>> Russia, especially while it has not given to IS any
ak>>>> pretext for it.
AS>>> It has given. For example, Russia supported anti-IS
AS>>> forces in Syria, killed many jihadists there.
ak>> The guys who has done the terror attack in Crocus City Hall
ak>> have been captured and they said quite different things.
ak>> They only have said that they did this terror act for
ak>> money. So, they are not religious fanatics, they are just
ak>> mercenaries. Now Russia is finding out who was the client
ak>> and for whom the event was most profitable.
AS>
AS> It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian
AS> migrants instead of real terrorists...

That guys had a well prepared plan and they were sure they could run
away. That's why they didn't hide there faces. After the attack they
sped up toward Ukraine and road cameras showed their speed as 140 km/hours. Also genetic expertise proves easily who held the weapon that was found.

Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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x) Friday Mar 29, 2024, 09:44. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

It's possible that Russian regime captured some random Asian
migrants instead of real terrorists...

That guys had a well prepared plan and they were sure they could run
away. That's why they didn't hide there faces. After the attack they
sped up toward Ukraine and road cameras showed their speed as 140 km/hours. Also genetic expertise proves easily who held the weapon that was found.

For now, I think, any result profitable for Russian government will do, and they can easily create it.

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