• Got it...

    From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jason Brady on Thu Nov 7 15:54:00 2024
    I don't have any problems receiving netmail, but they aren't going out. I responded to yours, but I seriously doubt you'll get it. I had Lord Time
    send a message to Jay Harris, but I don't know how that's going...

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  • From Jason Brady@1:218/910 to Martin Kazmaier on Fri Nov 8 10:33:00 2024
    Hi Martin,

    > I don't have any problems receiving netmail, but they aren't going out.

    Ah, understood. Can you send netmail directly to another node via poll or pickup, or is the issue only with routed outbound netmail?

    Is there anything I can do to help with troubleshooting?

    Regards,
    Jason

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jason Brady on Fri Nov 8 17:05:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Jason Brady said:

    Hi Martin,

    > I don't have any problems receiving netmail, but they aren't going
    out.

    Ah, understood. Can you send netmail directly to another node via poll or pickup, or is the issue only with routed outbound netmail?

    Is there anything I can do to help with troubleshooting?

    I don't have the means to send direct netmail. Nope, my feed is seeing if
    his netmail goes out sometime soon. He's on vacation at the moment.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Martin Kazmaier on Fri Nov 8 21:44:02 2024
    Martin Kazmaier wrote to Jason Brady <=-

    > I don't have any problems receiving netmail, but they aren't going
    out.

    Ah, understood. Can you send netmail directly to another node via poll or pickup, or is the issue only with routed outbound netmail?

    I don't have the means to send direct netmail.

    Why not? Why can't you send a direct netmail?

    Nope, my feed is seeing if his netmail goes out sometime soon. He's on vacation at the moment.

    Your feed has nothing to do with sending direct netmail.



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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Dan Clough on Sat Nov 9 14:06:00 2024
    Martin Kazmaier wrote to Jason Brady <=-

    > I don't have any problems receiving netmail, but they aren't going out.

    Ah, understood. Can you send netmail directly to another node via poll
    or
    pickup, or is the issue only with routed outbound netmail?

    I don't have the means to send direct netmail.

    Why not? Why can't you send a direct netmail?

    I'm using binkd and fastecho with my bbs software (ele) and can't send
    direct! How is that so hard to understand?

    Nope, my feed is seeing if his netmail goes out sometime soon. He's
    on
    vacation at the moment.

    Your feed has nothing to do with sending direct netmail.

    That was answering the question about if he could help troubleshoot.



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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Martin Kazmaier on Sat Nov 9 16:20:18 2024
    Martin Kazmaier wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I don't have the means to send direct netmail.

    Why not? Why can't you send a direct netmail?

    I'm using binkd and fastecho with my bbs software (ele) and can't send direct! How is that so hard to understand?

    Well..... that's the first time I've seen you mention that, and it's
    *NOT* hard to understand. In fact, what software you're using is
    COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to your ability to send direct netmail. What
    don't you understand about that?

    Are you trying to say that binkd can't send direct netmail?

    Your whole problem is that you don't know how to properly configure your software. Do some reading and set up your mailer correctly.


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  • From Jason Brady@1:218/910 to Martin Kazmaier on Sat Nov 9 13:54:00 2024
    Hi Martin,

    I took the liberty of directly contacting your node via poll action. Successful handshake and the message packet appears to be accepted by your node.

    Please check your inbound to see if my message arrived.

    If so, reply to the message and e-mail me. I can either poll your node again to pick up the response or you can poll my node to return the response message packet.

    Let me know if the message was received on your side and how you would like to proceed.

    Regards,
    Jason

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Dan Clough on Sat Nov 9 20:17:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Dan Clough said:

    Martin Kazmaier wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I don't have the means to send direct netmail.

    Why not? Why can't you send a direct netmail?

    I'm using binkd and fastecho with my bbs software (ele) and can't
    send
    direct! How is that so hard to understand?

    Well..... that's the first time I've seen you mention that, and it's
    *NOT* hard to understand. In fact, what software you're using is
    COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to your ability to send direct netmail. What
    don't you understand about that?

    Are you trying to say that binkd can't send direct netmail?

    Not without a nodelist specifically designed for it; I don't think so. I
    might be able to with micronet, but that's the only net I'm on that has a
    binkd nodelist that I know of.

    Your whole problem is that you don't know how to properly configure your software. Do some reading and set up your mailer correctly.


    I've got it set up as correctly as anyone else as near as I can tell. I can send direct to those in my nodelist. I have to create that list and I'm not going to go through a fidonet nodelist manually to do that.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jason Brady on Sat Nov 9 20:19:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Jason Brady said:

    Hi Martin,

    I took the liberty of directly contacting your node via poll action. Successful handshake and the message packet appears to be accepted by your node.

    Please check your inbound to see if my message arrived.

    If so, reply to the message and e-mail me. I can either poll your node
    again to pick up the response or you can poll my node to return the
    response message packet.

    Let me know if the message was received on your side and how you would
    like to proceed.

    Of course I got it. I always receive netmail, it just doesn't go out routed.
    I wouldn't know how to poll your node to return the message. binkd will only poll nodes I have manually set up in it's config.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:154/700 to Martin Kazmaier on Sat Nov 9 23:14:27 2024
    On Sat, Nov 09 2024 14:19:00 -0600, you wrote:

    Of course I got it. I always receive netmail, it just doesn't go out routed. I wouldn't know how to poll your node to return the message. binkd will only poll nodes I have manually set up in it's config.

    FYI, there are scripts out there that can convert any nodelist into the
    format binkd can read, so you wouldn't have to manually do any of that.

    However, this seems like your hub (340/400) isn't able to route netmail properly. I believe we already brought up the idea that he was probably
    linked with the former Z1C for netmail routing, if not for echomail as
    well. That system he was linked to has been gone for months now. If your uplink can't fix his system, you might be better off getting a new uplink.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Dan Clough on Sat Nov 9 21:32:00 2024
    Martin Kazmaier wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I don't have the means to send direct netmail.

    Why not? Why can't you send a direct netmail?

    I'm using binkd and fastecho with my bbs software (ele) and can't
    send
    direct! How is that so hard to understand?

    Well..... that's the first time I've seen you mention that, and it's
    *NOT* hard to understand. In fact, what software you're using is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to your ability to send direct netmail. What
    don't you understand about that?

    Are you trying to say that binkd can't send direct netmail?

    Your whole problem is that you don't know how to properly configure your software. Do some reading and set up your mailer correctly.


    Help me to do that! I've done as much reading as I can to get to the point where I'm at. What you don't seem to understand is that I don't have the slightest inclination to get direct netmail working. I want it routing.
    That's what's not working at the moment and I think my feed is the issue. If you'd read my posts, I NEVER stated that I wanted direct netmail working.
    I've been trying to get routing working this whole time. If you can't help,
    go away. Others are at least trying to help. You're just trying to agitate me.

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    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,8080) (ssh login 'bbs' pass 'shsbbs').


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  • From Dennis Slagers@2:280/2060 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Nov 10 09:41:00 2024

    Hello Martin!

    09 Nov 24 21:32, you wrote to Dan Clough:


    Help me to do that! I've done as much reading as I can to get to the point where I'm at. What you don't seem to understand is that I don't have the slightest inclination to get direct netmail working. I want
    it routing. That's what's not working at the moment and I think my
    feed is the issue. If you'd read my posts, I NEVER stated that I
    wanted direct netmail working. I've been trying to get routing working this whole time. If you can't help, go away. Others are at least
    trying to help. You're just trying to agitate me.

    As most people think: it is not your system's issue but an uplink issue, is it not interesting
    to try to contact the uplink and see what is wrong? Or wait until the uplink returns?

    As I read (I hope) correctly some netmails were routed correctly some are at a stand-still, is it not worth investing time to see why a crash netmail would not be sent by binkd? To get an alterative way of communicating and get in touch with other uplinks to see if it is indeed another uplinks issue?

    for what I know: binkd is using its own system to send crashmail
    there are tools like BinkD-compatible nodelist extraction
    through the file: binkd_nodelister.php version 1.4.0 which is based on perl binkd_nodelister.pl available
    which is able to convert the nodelist to the binkd call list.
    that file generated needs to be included in the config of binkd and with that you can send crash mail
    and if needed you still can do the routing. I just noticed my system is not configured to update that call list and I converted it. Now I need to create a script to do that daily (or weekly)

    I was on hiatus for 24 years, and now 2 months back into Fidonet. I know the lessons to get things running again is sometimes hard and sometimes you have to take a breath, wait, adapt, change and take
    alternative ways to get your things going.


    When I was starting again I had an issue of a pkt password issue I saw in the log. I could not see what was the issue from my site nor it seems to be an issue as all was working well even some other little things from my side looked wrong. In the end: other people software could also be not correctly configured which affects your site. So my uplink had an issue.

    Try to get crashmail working, in the end it will be helping you solving other issues as well.


    Dennis


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Nov 10 13:33:27 2024
    Hi Martin,

    On 2024-11-09 21:32:00, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    Are you trying to say that binkd can't send direct netmail?

    Help me to do that!

    If you have these settings in your binkd config:

    #
    # Overrides root domain for DNS lookups, see 'node' below.
    #
    root-domain binkp.net

    #
    # Default node flags. Binkd will call an unlisted node if "defnode" is defined. #
    defnode -nd *


    You don't need to specify every node you want to direct mail. Binkd will use dns lookup on binkp.net, to find out where to connect to.

    (Disclaimer: I don't use this myself, so I might have some of the details not right ;-))


    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Nov 10 11:08:22 2024
    On 09 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Of course I got it. I always receive netmail, it just doesn't go out routed. I wouldn't know how to poll your node to return the message. binkd will only poll nodes I have manually set up in it's config.

    Another thing you can try is routing your netmail through Z1C.

    Add a new node in FESETUP for 1:229/426. In Routing-F2 route all netmail for 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* to that new node & remove any wildcard routes in other nodes.

    In binkd.conf you'd add:

    node 1:229/426@fidonet bbs.darkrealms.ca -

    You don't need a password to route netmail


    Jay

    ... You know what they say about cliffhangers...

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    * Origin: Northern Realms (1:229/664)
  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jay Harris on Sun Nov 10 13:53:00 2024
    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Jay Harris said:

    On 09 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Of course I got it. I always receive netmail, it just doesn't go out routed. I wouldn't know how to poll your node to return the message. binkd will only poll nodes I have manually set up in it's config.

    Another thing you can try is routing your netmail through Z1C.

    Add a new node in FESETUP for 1:229/426. In Routing-F2 route all netmail for 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* to that new node & remove any wildcard routes in other nodes.

    In binkd.conf you'd add:

    node 1:229/426@fidonet bbs.darkrealms.ca -

    You don't need a password to route netmail

    Ok, I just set that up!


    Jay

    ... You know what they say about cliffhangers...

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jay Harris on Sun Nov 10 14:05:00 2024
    On 09 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Of course I got it. I always receive netmail, it just doesn't go out routed. I wouldn't know how to poll your node to return the message. binkd will only poll nodes I have manually set up in it's config.

    Another thing you can try is routing your netmail through Z1C.

    Add a new node in FESETUP for 1:229/426. In Routing-F2 route all netmail for 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* to that new node & remove any wildcard routes in other nodes.

    In binkd.conf you'd add:

    node 1:229/426@fidonet bbs.darkrealms.ca -

    You don't need a password to route netmail


    I sent you a netmail with this setup. We'll see if it works... fastecho seemed to do it's think, but binkd didn't.

    --
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jay Harris on Sun Nov 10 14:54:00 2024

    On 09 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Of course I got it. I always receive netmail, it just doesn't go out routed. I wouldn't know how to poll your node to return the message. binkd will only poll nodes I have manually set up in it's config.

    Another thing you can try is routing your netmail through Z1C.

    Add a new node in FESETUP for 1:229/426. In Routing-F2 route all netmail for 1:* 2:* 3:* 4:* to that new node & remove any wildcard routes in other nodes.

    In binkd.conf you'd add:

    node 1:229/426@fidonet bbs.darkrealms.ca -

    You don't need a password to route netmail



    I used binkd -p -P 1:229/426@fidonet binkdall.cfg

    It connected, but didn't send anything. I ran "fastecho scan" and "fastecho pack -p" before this. Fastecho noticed the netmail and tried to route it.

    I have 1 outbound directories in binkd for fidonet, but 2 fidonet nodes now. 1:340/400 for echomail and 1:229/426 for netmail. Will that be a problem?

    I know that fastecho knows the difference. Will binkd?

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Nov 10 14:55:00 2024

    Hi Martin,

    On 2024-11-09 21:32:00, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    Are you trying to say that binkd can't send direct netmail?

    Help me to do that!

    If you have these settings in your binkd config:

    # # Overrides root domain for DNS lookups, see 'node' below. #
    root-domain binkp.net

    # # Default node flags. Binkd will call an unlisted node if "defnode"
    is defined. # defnode -nd *


    You don't need to specify every node you want to direct mail. Binkd will use dns lookup on binkp.net, to find out where to connect to.

    (Disclaimer: I don't use this myself, so I might have some of the details not right ;-))


    Thanks Wilfred! I'll try that if what I'm currently trying (routing through Z1C) doesn't work.

    --
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jason Brady on Sun Nov 10 14:57:00 2024

    Hi Martin,

    I took the liberty of directly contacting your node via poll action. Successful handshake and the message packet appears to be accepted by your node.

    Please check your inbound to see if my message arrived.

    If so, reply to the message and e-mail me. I can either poll your node again to pick up the response or you can poll my node to return the response message packet.

    Let me know if the message was received on your side and how you would like to proceed.

    Regards, Jason

    I sent you a netmail routing through Z1C. We'll see if it works!

    --
    Shurato, Sysop Shurato's Heavenly Sphere (ssh, telnet, pop3, ftp,nntp,
    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,8080) (ssh login 'bbs' pass 'shsbbs').


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    ---
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Nov 10 23:57:26 2024
    Hi Martin,

    On 2024-11-10 14:55:00, you wrote to me:

    If you have these settings in your binkd config:

    # # Overrides root domain for DNS lookups, see 'node' below. #
    root-domain binkp.net

    # # Default node flags. Binkd will call an unlisted node if "defnode"
    is defined. # defnode -nd *


    You don't need to specify every node you want to direct mail. Binkd will
    use dns lookup on binkp.net, to find out where to connect to.

    (Disclaimer: I don't use this myself, so I might have some of the details
    not right ;-))

    Thanks Wilfred! I'll try that if what I'm currently trying (routing through Z1C) doesn't work.

    You can do both at the same time! ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Nov 10 18:46:36 2024
    On 10 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    I sent you a netmail with this setup. We'll see if it works...
    fastecho seemed to do it's think, but binkd didn't.

    I got a netmail from you & just replied to it!


    Jay

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Martin Kazmaier on Mon Nov 11 07:28:00 2024
    Hi Martin.

    10 Nov 24 14:54:00, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    I know that fastecho knows the difference. Will binkd?

    BTW, Are you using domains in Fastecho? If so, it will use 5D bso outbound.

    Also, Fastecho may by default put netmail to arcmail bundles. Every system may not process arc'd mail from insecure inbound.

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: Point One (2:221/1.1)
  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jay Harris on Mon Nov 11 00:48:00 2024

    On 10 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    I sent you a netmail with this setup. We'll see if it works... fastecho seemed to do it's think, but binkd didn't.

    I got a netmail from you & just replied to it!

    Ok, and of course I didn't receive your reply...

    --
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    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,8080) (ssh login 'bbs' pass 'shsbbs').


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Nov 11 00:53:00 2024

    Hi Martin.

    10 Nov 24 14:54:00, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    I know that fastecho knows the difference. Will binkd?

    BTW, Are you using domains in Fastecho? If so, it will use 5D bso outbound.

    Yes. It uses a normal outbound directory for zone 1, and domain.hex for the rest of the outbound directories. I have that set up properly in binkd.

    Also, Fastecho may by default put netmail to arcmail bundles. Every system may not process arc'd mail from insecure inbound.

    Would this be effected by "fastecho pack"? I use "fastecho pack -P"
    otherwise it doesn't even try to send teh messages.

    Arcmail status is set to none. PKZIP is the archiver though, if it does archive it.

    Does that all sound right?

    --
    Shurato, Sysop Shurato's Heavenly Sphere (ssh, telnet, pop3, ftp,nntp,
    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,8080) (ssh login 'bbs' pass 'shsbbs').


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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jay Harris on Mon Nov 11 01:34:00 2024

    On 10 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    I sent you a netmail with this setup. We'll see if it works... fastecho seemed to do it's think, but binkd didn't.

    I got a netmail from you & just replied to it!

    Ok, things seem to at least be working between the two of us...

    --
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    ,wss) (Ports 22,23,110,21,119,8080) (ssh login 'bbs' pass 'shsbbs').


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Martin Kazmaier on Mon Nov 11 07:59:00 2024
    On 11 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Ok, things seem to at least be working between the two of us...

    I received your reply to my reply.

    I can see the path from you is 340/1101 -> 229/426 -> 229/664.


    Jay

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Martin Kazmaier on Mon Nov 11 16:32:18 2024
    Hi Martin.

    11 Nov 24 00:53, you wrote to me:

    Also, Fastecho may by default put netmail to arcmail bundles. Every system TK>> may not process arc'd mail from insecure inbound.

    Would this be effected by "fastecho pack"? I use "fastecho pack -P" otherwise it doesn't even try to send teh messages.

    That is exactly the command to export netmail to binkley-style-outbound. :)

    Arcmail status is set to none. PKZIP is the archiver though, if it does archive it.

    Does that all sound right?

    Yes. :)

    'Tommi

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jay Harris on Mon Nov 11 10:43:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Jay Harris said:

    On 11 Nov 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Ok, things seem to at least be working between the two of us...

    I received your reply to my reply.

    I can see the path from you is 340/1101 -> 229/426 -> 229/664.


    Awesome; Aug got my netmails as well on Rusty Mailbox. I still am not
    sending to points or zone 2 though.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Nov 11 10:44:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Tommi Koivula said:

    Hi Martin.

    11 Nov 24 00:53, you wrote to me:

    Also, Fastecho may by default put netmail to arcmail bundles. Every system
    may not process arc'd mail from insecure inbound.

    Would this be effected by "fastecho pack"? I use "fastecho pack -P" otherwise it doesn't even try to send teh messages.

    That is exactly the command to export netmail to binkley-style-outbound.
    :)

    Arcmail status is set to none. PKZIP is the archiver though, if it does archive it.

    Does that all sound right?

    Yes. :)

    Yay! Jay Harris and August Abolins both received zone 1 netmails from me.
    Zone 2 and points still aren't working.

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  • From Jason Brady@1:218/910 to Martin Kazmaier on Mon Nov 11 10:07:00 2024
    MK>I sent you a netmail routing through Z1C. We'll see if it works!

    Received and responded. Glad it's working now!

    Regards,
    Jason

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Martin Kazmaier on Mon Nov 11 21:25:46 2024
    Hello, Martin Kazmaier.
    On 11/11/2024 10.44 you wrote:

    Does that all sound right?
    Yes. :)
    Yay! Jay Harris and August Abolins both received zone 1 netmails from me. Zone 2 and points still aren't working.

    Then you need a direct link to zone2. Feel free to send all zone2 mail via 2:221/0. ;)

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  • From Jay Harris@1:229/664 to Martin Kazmaier on Mon Nov 11 17:23:52 2024
    On Monday November 11 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Yay! Jay Harris and August Abolins both received zone 1 netmails from
    me. Zone 2 and points still aren't working.

    I just routed a ping through 1:229/426 to 2:221/1 and it worked.

    You should be able to send netmails addressed to any zone through 229/426 and it'll get routed onward.


    Jay

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MARTIN KAZMAIER on Tue Nov 12 11:11:00 2024
    Awesome; Aug got my netmails as well on Rusty Mailbox. I still am not sending to points or zone 2 though.

    I just got a netmail from you dated early October. I responded.

    Mike


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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Nov 11 14:27:00 2024
    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Tommi Koivula said:

    Hotdoged/1727691443000 HotdogEd/2.13.5. Hello, Martin Kazmaier. On 11/11/2024 10.44 you wrote:

    Does that all sound right?
    Yes. :)
    Yay! Jay Harris and August Abolins both received zone 1 netmails
    from me.
    Zone 2 and points still aren't working.

    Then you need a direct link to zone2. Feel free to send all zone2 mail via 2:221/0. ;)

    Ok, added: f0.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi to 2:221/0@fidonet in binkd. I think that's all I need. Outbound is set to "c:\ele\irex\outbound 1" for fidonet zone 1. I don't have a zone 2 address, so I don't know what else to do for that. It was suggested that I put 32767 instead of 1 to account for other zones, so I changed that just now. We'll see.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jay Harris on Mon Nov 11 23:07:00 2024
    On Monday November 11 2024, Martin Kazmaier said the following...

    Yay! Jay Harris and August Abolins both received zone 1 netmails
    from
    me. Zone 2 and points still aren't working.

    I just routed a ping through 1:229/426 to 2:221/1 and it worked.

    You should be able to send netmails addressed to any zone through 229/426 and it'll get routed onward.


    How should binkd be setup for this?

    I've got:
    domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 32767
    address 1:340/1101@fidonet
    node 1:229/426@fidonet bbs.darkrealms.ca - i
    node 2:221/0@fidonet f0.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi - i

    fastecho has routing for 1:229/426 as 1:*, 2:*, 3:* and 4:*. Do I need anything else?

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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Nov 17 12:33:40 2024

    Hello Martin!

    11 Nov 24 23:07, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    I've got:
    domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound 32767

    That is wrong... Your in zone 1, so put a 1 at the end and not that 32767 number.

    address 1:340/1101@fidonet
    node 1:229/426@fidonet bbs.darkrealms.ca - i
    node 2:221/0@fidonet f0.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi - i

    fastecho has routing for 1:229/426 as 1:*, 2:*, 3:* and 4:*. Do I
    need anything else?

    That is fine to send *all* netmail to 1:229/426.

    If you want to send direct to other nodes you need to adjust the routing.




    Stephen


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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Stephen Walsh on Sat Nov 16 20:33:00 2024

    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Stephen Walsh said:


    Hello Martin!

    11 Nov 24 23:07, you wrote to Jay Harris:

    I've got: domain fidonet c:\\ele\\irex\\outbound
    32767

    That is wrong... Your in zone 1, so put a 1 at the end and not that 32767 number.

    It originally was 1. I was told to set it to 32767 to handle all zones, but
    it didn't work. I set it back last night.

    address 1:340/1101@fidonet node 1:229/426@fidonet bbs.darkrealms.ca
    - i node 2:221/0@fidonet f0.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi
    - i

    fastecho has routing for 1:229/426 as 1:*, 2:*, 3:* and 4:*. Do I
    need anything else?

    That is fine to send *all* netmail to 1:229/426.

    I do. I'm not sending anything direct, I don't have nodelists configured for that.

    If you want to send direct to other nodes you need to adjust the routing.




    Stephen


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Martin Kazmaier on Sun Nov 17 21:14:22 2024
    Hi Martin.

    11 Nov 24 14:27:00, you wrote to me:

    Then you need a direct link to zone2. Feel free to send all zone2
    mail via
    2:221/0. ;)

    Ok, added: f0.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi to 2:221/0@fidonet in binkd. I
    think that's all I need. Outbound is set to "c:\ele\irex\outbound 1"
    for fidonet zone 1. I don't have a zone 2 address, so I don't know
    what else to do for that. It was suggested that I put 32767 instead
    of 1 to account for other zones, so I changed that just now. We'll
    see.

    Then you need to add a node 2:221/0 to your fastecho setup so that it routes all 2:* via 2:221/0.

    From the command line "fastecho pack -p 2:* via 2:221/0" would also work.

    'Tommi

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Nov 17 13:41:00 2024
    * In a message originally to Martin Kazmaier, Tommi Koivula said:

    Hi Martin.

    11 Nov 24 14:27:00, you wrote to me:

    Then you need a direct link to zone2. Feel free to send all zone2
    mail via 2:221/0. ;)

    Ok, added: f0.n221.z2.rbb.fidonet.fi to 2:221/0@fidonet in binkd. I think that's all I need. Outbound is set to "c:\ele\irex\outbound 1"
    for fidonet zone 1. I don't have a zone 2 address, so I don't know
    what else to do for that. It was suggested that I put 32767 instead
    of 1 to account for other zones, so I changed that just now. We'll
    see.

    Then you need to add a node 2:221/0 to your fastecho setup so that it
    routes all 2:* via 2:221/0.

    From the command line "fastecho pack -p 2:* via 2:221/0" would also work.

    I've got zone 2 working with realms now, but thanks!

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