• Re^3: Still there?

    From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Tim Schattkowsky on Tue Apr 9 16:37:46 2024
    Unless it's now Free Pascal?

    Is that production ready?

    It is. Mystic is built with Free Pascal.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Rob Swindell on Wed Apr 10 09:40:36 2024
    Hi Rob,

    On 2024-04-09 15:25:42, you wrote to me:

    Delphi / C++ Builder is still in active development by Embarcadero, and
    has a modern ide. We use C++ Builder at work.

    Technically it's Idera (that purchased Embarcadero back 2015) that "develops"
    C++ Builder. I still use C++ Builder 6 to build Synchronet for Win32 GUI apps

    I also still use it for a project, I didn't get around to converting...

    and have tried (unsuccessfully) to migrate those projects (one big
    one) to modern versions of C++ Builder. I'll be looking at some other cross-platform tools for future Synchronet GUI app work. -- digital
    man (rob)

    Code::blocks is free to use. I use it for FMail development. It uses mingw on Windows, but you can configure other compilers.
    CLion is a much better/advanced ide, it's payware, but you can get a free license if you are a developer for an active opensource project, which shouldn't be a problem for you! ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Mike@1:229/310 to Tim Schattkowsky on Wed Apr 10 06:46:14 2024
    Unless it's now Free Pascal?

    Is that production ready?

    I don't know.

    ... Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist.

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  • From Alexander Grotewohl@1:120/616 to Mike on Wed Apr 10 07:58:24 2024
    On 10 Apr 2024, Mike said the following...

    Unless it's now Free Pascal?

    Is that production ready?

    I don't know.

    Free Pascal does a lot of great things with libraries that are built in.

    At a former job I used it to find and grab new orders from an SSL website, parse the JSON order data, send the order over to an accounting system and print custom reports without anything but some libraries from the base
    install. Basically replaced an employee's worth of work during the slow part
    of the year and 4 or 5 during the busy part..

    Would most companies want a Pascal solution? Probably not.. I don't work
    there anymore so they had to find someone to either work on it or replace it. Their accounting system is pretty stable, but keeping an open source web
    store with thousands of visitors a day up-to-date means the API might just
    be incompatible at any moment.

    Still, it's neat to know little old Pascal is reliable enough to save/make
    you a ton of money :)

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Apr 10 14:48:46 2024
    Re: Re^3: Still there?
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Rob Swindell on Wed Apr 10 2024 09:40 am

    Code::blocks is free to use. I use it for FMail development. It uses mingw on Windows, but you can configure other compilers.
    CLion is a much better/advanced ide, it's payware, but you can get a free license if you are a developer for an active opensource project, which shouldn't be a problem for you! ;-)

    Thanks, good to know. I'd definitely prefer a "free to all" tool (e.g. Code::Blocks), but will take a look.
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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Alan Ianson on Thu Apr 11 01:48:24 2024
    //Hello Alan,//

    on *09.04.24* at *23:37:46* You wrote in Area *PASCAL*
    to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"Re^3: Still there?"*.

    Unless it's now Free Pascal?

    Is that production ready?

    It is. Mystic is built with Free Pascal.

    Good to know!

    Regards,
    Tim

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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Apr 9 20:10:34 2024
    //Hello Wilfred,//

    on *09.04.24* at *9:28:26* You wrote in Area *PASCAL*
    to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"Re^2: Still there?"*.

    Hi Tim,

    On 2024-04-09 10:46:21, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    Not too much going on here ;)

    Who, in their right mind, is still using Pascal, if they can avoid it? ;-)

    In Fidonet there are a few legacy programs that were written in Pascal. But of those I don't think there are many that are actively maintained.

    WinPoint is written in Delphi, which should count. But yes, its pretty legacy.

    Still, I think delphi is still good today for multi-platform development. However, I would not do it because frankly said the customers advisors my tell them that anybody using Delphi today is incompetent.


    Regards,
    Tim

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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Mike on Tue Apr 9 20:11:20 2024
    //Hello Mike,//

    on *09.04.24* at *12:11:17* You wrote in Area *PASCAL*
    to *Dr. What* about *"Re^2: Still there?"*.

    Unless it's now Free Pascal?

    Is that production ready?

    Regards,
    Tim

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tim Schattkowsky on Tue Apr 9 20:43:38 2024
    Hi Tim,

    On 2024-04-09 20:10:35, you wrote to me:

    WinPoint is written in Delphi, which should count. But yes, its pretty legacy.

    Still, I think delphi is still good today for multi-platform development. However, I would not do it because frankly said the customers advisors my tell
    them that anybody using Delphi today is incompetent.

    Delphi / C++ Builder is still in active development by Embarcadero, and has a modern ide. We use C++ Builder at work.


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Apr 9 15:25:42 2024
    Re: Re^3: Still there?
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Tim Schattkowsky on Tue Apr 09 2024 08:43 pm

    Delphi / C++ Builder is still in active development by Embarcadero, and has a modern ide. We use C++ Builder at work.

    Technically it's Idera (that purchased Embarcadero back 2015) that "develops" C++ Builder. I still use C++ Builder 6 to build Synchronet for Win32 GUI apps and have tried (unsuccessfully) to migrate those projects (one big one) to modern versions of C++ Builder. I'll be looking at some other cross-platform tools for future Synchronet GUI app work.
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