Hi Nicholas,

On 2024-04-09 17:51:30, you wrote to me:

Someone correct me, but doesn't Mystic BBS still allow you to
program things in Pascal?

I highly doubt Mystic has a Pascal compiler build into it. So it
probably has support for executables. So it doesn't matter what language
they are written in.

For the record, Mystic uses MPL (Mystic Programming Language) which is heavily
based on, if not identical to Free Pascal, iirc. There is indeed a compiler
included with the BBS software, called 'mplc' (Mystic Programming Language Compiler, I would assume).

So yes, you can write and compile your own stuff. ;)

Thanks for the info! I learned something today. ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dr. What <=-

Hi Dr.,
(Your real name is broken!)

No. My real name is fine. The sysop of this BBS has his echos configured incorrectly.

That's an opinion! ;)

I liked Turbo C ...

Yup. That's an opinion. But good luck finding a good C compiler for CP/M 2.2.

Back in those days development was
1. Edit the code in your favorite editor (probably Wordstar).
2. Exit the editor and run pass 1 of your compiler.
3. If that worked, run pass 2 of the compiler.
4. If that worked, run the linker.
5. And if that worked, run your executable to see what you need to fix.
6. Goto 1.

Needless to say, Turbo Pascal was wonderful in those days. Turbo C didn't come out until MUCH later.

I highly doubt Mystic has a Pascal compiler build into it. So it
probably has support for executables. So it doesn't matter what
language they are written in.

No, that's not correct. I don't know if it has a compiler "built in", but I know that you wrote your code and use some sort of "compiler" to build it. It's been a while.

I have Python seen being mentioned in the Mystic area...

As have I. So that's why I'm wondering.

And how many languages have riffed off Java?

I think you are confused with C !

No. C was old by then. C++ was the rage. Hence the move to Java.

Newer languages borrow good thing from the current languages and try to leave the bad things behind.


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Hi Dr.,

On 2024-04-10 05:38:44, you wrote to me:

(Your real name is broken!)

No. My real name is fine. The sysop of this BBS has his echos configured incorrectly.

You can't blame it all on the sysop. You could sign your messages with your realname.

That's an opinion! ;)

I liked Turbo C ...

Yup. That's an opinion. But good luck finding a good C compiler for CP/M 2.2.

I don't know anything about CP/M. ;)

Needless to say, Turbo Pascal was wonderful in those days. Turbo C
didn't come out until MUCH later.

Then you must be really old! ;-)

I started (professionally) with Turbo C on the PC under DOS, I think on a 386...

I highly doubt Mystic has a Pascal compiler build into it. So it
probably has support for executables. So it doesn't matter what
language they are written in.

No, that's not correct. I don't know if it has a compiler "built in", but I
know that you wrote your code and use some sort of "compiler" to build it. It's been a while.

Nicholas Boel explained it...


Bye, Wilfred.

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//Hello Dan,//

on *08.04.24* at *16:26:00* You wrote in Area *PASCAL*
to *Tim Schattkowsky* about *"Re: Still there?"*.

Tim Schattkowsky wrote to All <=-

Hello All,

Ping!

Pong!

Not too much going on here ;)

Regards,
Tim

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Hi Tim,

On 2024-04-09 10:46:21, you wrote to Dan Clough:

Not too much going on here ;)

Who, in their right mind, is still using Pascal, if they can avoid it? ;-)

In Fidonet there are a few legacy programs that were written in Pascal. But of those I don't think there are many that are actively maintained.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Tim Schattkowsky <=-

Who, in their right mind, is still using Pascal, if they can avoid it? ;-)

Those of who are playing with vintage CP/M and MS-DOS machines. Turbo Pascal was probably the best tool for programming on those systems.

In Fidonet there are a few legacy programs that were written in Pascal. But of those I don't think there are many that are actively maintained.

Someone correct me, but doesn't Mystic BBS still allow you to program things in Pascal? Or did they finally move to Python?

But the ghosts of these old languages still exist in the modern ones. Pascal wouldn't have existed without Algol. Java borrows heavily from Pascal. And how many languages have riffed off Java?


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Someone correct me, but doesn't Mystic BBS still allow you to program things in Pascal? Or did they finally move to Python?

I think you're right. Somebody else is welcome to comment.

Unless it's now Free Pascal?

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Hi Dr.,

(Your real name is broken!)

On 2024-04-09 05:21:47, you wrote to me:

Who, in their right mind, is still using Pascal, if they can avoid
it? ;-)

Those of who are playing with vintage CP/M and MS-DOS machines. Turbo Pascal
was probably the best tool for programming on those systems.

That's an opinion! ;)

I liked Turbo C ...

In Fidonet there are a few legacy programs that were written in
Pascal. But of those I don't think there are many that are actively
maintained.

Someone correct me, but doesn't Mystic BBS still allow you to program things
in Pascal?

I highly doubt Mystic has a Pascal compiler build into it. So it probably has support for executables. So it doesn't matter what language they are written in.

Or did they finally move to Python?

I have Python seen being mentioned in the Mystic area...

But the ghosts of these old languages still exist in the modern ones. Pascal
wouldn't have existed without Algol. Java borrows heavily from Pascal.

I think Java much more looks like C(++)!

And how many languages have riffed off Java?

I think you are confused with C !


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello, Wilfred van Velzen.
On 9/4/24 11:28 you wrote:

In Fidonet there are a few legacy programs that were written in
Pascal. But of those I don't think there are many that are
actively maintained.

D'Bridge, Mystic (I believe), Winpoint (if we consider Delphi as Pascal)...

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Re: Re: Re^2: Still there?
By: Dr. What to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Apr 09 2024 05:21 am

Someone correct me, but doesn't Mystic BBS still allow you to program things in Pascal? Or did they finally move to Python?

And Mystic itself is written in Pascal. <shrug>
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 20:48:02 +0200, you wrote:

Someone correct me, but doesn't Mystic BBS still allow you to program things
in Pascal?

I highly doubt Mystic has a Pascal compiler build into it. So it probably has
support for executables. So it doesn't matter what language they are written in.

For the record, Mystic uses MPL (Mystic Programming Language) which is heavily based on, if not identical to Free Pascal, iirc. There is indeed a compiler included with the BBS software, called 'mplc' (Mystic Programming Language Compiler, I would assume).

So yes, you can write and compile your own stuff. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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