Shrinkflation has been going on for some time now, since the
supply-chain issues of 2020-2022. It's a tool of corporate profits,
which far outpace inflation during Biden's administration.

It has been going on a lot longer than that.


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On 15 Feb 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

Still seeing (it is quite early yet) smaller packages which used to be th
larger variety of the same product and it is still slightly more expensive than what was the regular size within the supermarket, before t
grocery items shrunk in size.

That has been going on for years. I remember talking about it in a marketing class c1990.

Maybe so, to your point it has been going on for years.
I would say to much larger degree then ever before.
It's blatant as it was intentional act.
Not to mention to a more obvious to a more dramatic and noticeable effect.

Case and point take Oreos for example; I have always remembered these being being purchased in a container of a rectangle shape or package but never ever square, which is why this stands out. Oreos are only one example.

Did inflation do this with aid from the previous administration's war on oil? Higher production costs and more money to transport these goods to market.
Simply put when the previous administration set their eyes on make-believe initiatives and things like green new deals and spending millions on victim hood including DEI which was born from same nonsensical ideas.
It does not leave much room for common sense people to deliver common sense.

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Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

Shrinkflation has been going on for some time now, since the
supply-chain issues of 2020-2022. It's a tool of corporate profits,
which far outpace inflation during Biden's administration.

It has been going on a lot longer than that.

Agreed, but the trajectory seems to have increased dramatically. That's
what I'd meant to say.



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Shrinkflation has been going on for some time now, since the
supply-chain issues of 2020-2022. It's a tool of corporate profits,
which far outpace inflation during Biden's administration.

It has been going on a lot longer than that.

Agreed, but the trajectory seems to have increased dramatically. That's
what I'd meant to say.

There are no doubt some companies that are taking advantage. There are
others that have been, or are, going under so either they are not as good
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On 15 Feb 2025, Kurt Weiske said the following...

Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-

Other situations charging the U.S. 25 % and the U.S. charges them nothing. This stops under Trump. If they charge us, we charge them the
same. It's called reciprocal tariffs.
Why hasn't this been the U.S. Policy all along?

Because we were a net exporter of goods, materials and services and
understand that tariffs would hurt American business?

would it? All I see here is the United States being taken advantage.

In addition to that going on. Doge IS finding Billions of fraud, waste and abuse. But if you listen to liberal networks and lefty media they suggest there is nothing to see here.

I believe that it's true, Billions of dollars have been found of
fraud, waste abuse. More will be found still.

Sites like CBS will tell you that 14 Billion worth of federal program cuts were identified as approved spending. by whom Democrats who see a victim at every corner? Notice... they won't tell you the Whole Truth.
Only what fits their narrative, hoping it becomes yours.

Rolling Stone too. - Why would any periodical alienate half the country?
It's like they did not see the election map?
That is just as stupid and as equal to Budweiser hiring a trans influencer, Crap beer anyway. Not a Fan. Even before the sissy.

The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!

CBS and these other liberal networks are nothing more than a Democratic mouthpiece(s)
I think we will find out (and very soon) that they are Not So Smug? Any More.

It's going to be rather interesting to watch the show, because this is coming to a head. You will see the nay_sayers in the Liberal media begin to back-peddle. Attempting to save face and trying restore the confidence of the American people from a ever worsening reputation.
They did this to themselves due to their vile hatred and arrogant behavior.

These networks would rather sacrifice themselves vs giving the Trump Administration any credit for doing what other Presidential Administrations
wish they did.

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In addition to that going on. Doge IS finding Billions of fraud, waste and abuse. But if you listen to liberal networks and lefty media they suggest there is nothing to see here.

DOGE has found some low-hanging fruit (USAID) but they've also announced
other "fraud" that involves their misunderstanding of system default dates
and would indeed be "nothing to see here" if it were not so worrisome.

Sites like CBS will tell you that 14 Billion worth of federal program cuts wer
identified as approved spending. by whom Democrats who see a victim at every corner? Notice... they won't tell you the Whole Truth.
Only what fits their narrative, hoping it becomes yours.

Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wasteful.
The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too, I am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, which is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.

The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!

Not really. A lot of people voted for Trump because they were tired of
seeing their grocery bills go up and were tired of being unheared. So far, they've not received *any* relief at the grocery store. Others voted for him as the lesser of two evils... it was either him or someone who was completely incompetent as VP.

Only the most partisan of Trump voters were looking for someone to "stick
it to the liberals/left/Democrats." The rest just didn't want 4 more years
of what we already had.


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Gregory Deyss wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Because we were a net exporter of goods, materials and services and
understand that tariffs would hurt American business?

would it? All I see here is the United States being taken advantage.

A net exporter wants low tariffs and low costs to flood the market.

In addition to that going on. Doge IS finding Billions of fraud, waste
and abuse. But if you listen to liberal networks and lefty media they suggest there is nothing to see here.

Just because you don't like the source doesn't mean the numbers are
wrong - add them up yourself if you like.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/doge-wall-of-receipts-shows-errors-tallying-billions-in-savings/

DOGE's estimates include spent costs on contracts that they're not
getting back and shouldn't be reflected as savings. Millions mistaken
for Billions. Reflecting the same contracts multiple times.

$2 billion, aproximately 0.1% of the federal budget. Hardly the panacea
Musk touted. Admirable, but I also worry about a conflict of interest in
these efforts. We have a man with billions in government subsidies who's auditing government spending.

I believe that it's true, Billions of dollars have been found of
fraud, waste abuse. More will be found still.

Sites like CBS will tell you that 14 Billion worth of federal program
cuts were identified as approved spending. by whom Democrats who see a victim at every corner? Notice... they won't tell you the Whole Truth. Only what fits their narrative, hoping it becomes yours.

Rolling Stone too. - Why would any periodical alienate half the
country? It's like they did not see the election map?
That is just as stupid and as equal to Budweiser hiring a trans influencer, Crap beer anyway. Not a Fan. Even before the sissy.

The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!

CBS and these other liberal networks are nothing more than a Democratic mouthpiece(s) I think we will find out (and very soon) that they are
Not So Smug? Any More.

It's going to be rather interesting to watch the show, because this is coming to a head. You will see the nay_sayers in the Liberal media
begin to back-peddle. Attempting to save face and trying restore the confidence of the American people from a ever worsening reputation.
They did this to themselves due to their vile hatred and arrogant behavior.

These networks would rather sacrifice themselves vs giving the Trump Administration any credit for doing what other Presidential Administrations wish they did.

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On 20 Feb 2025, Mike Powell said the following...

In addition to that going on. Doge IS finding Billions of fraud, waste an
abuse. But if you listen to liberal networks and lefty media they sugges
there is nothing to see here.

DOGE has found some low-hanging fruit (USAID) but they've also announced other "fraud" that involves their misunderstanding of system default
dates and would indeed be "nothing to see here" if it were not so worrisome.

Low hanging fruit? - I think its more than that.
Several initiatives - many of them were outside the the United States.

It is also concerning that there are Millions of people on the Social Security rolls that are past 130 years old and older.
One of them is older than the United States itself.

Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wasteful. The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too, I
am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, which is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.

well, when we see The final List that DOGE has on the who's who -
that could show who sponsored the spending, as in what party they belong to.

For the moment it is mere speculation based on who are these people are.
It is my opinion it is the Democrats that need victims.
Republicans - not so much.

The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!

Not really. A lot of people voted for Trump because they were tired of seeing their grocery bills go up and were tired of being unheared. So far, they've not received *any* relief at the grocery store. Others
voted for him as the lesser of two evils... it was either him or someone who was completely incompetent as VP.

I just remember the Biden Administration telling us that issues from
Rising Costs at the Supermarket
Illegal Immigration
Inflation
Other Problems
That these issues were all resolved. They said "Things were better now."
They were not.

We all eat Mike. People in Blue States as well as Red States.
We all have stomachs. Help is coming.
Trump has only been in office for about 30 days.

In 30 days Trump has done more positive things then Biden has done in his entire Presidency / I would even wage to say that Trump has done more in 30 days than Biden has done in his entire 50 year political career.

Only the most partisan of Trump voters were looking for someone to "stick it to the liberals/left/Democrats." The rest just didn't want 4 more years of what we already had.

After how vile they were and everything that they tried to do. You Betcha!
No more calling a reporter a stupid SOB.
No more mumbling or shuffling off, ignoring questions being shouted - ignored. No more Reporters being treated like cattle
- w/ White House staff shouting Out! Everyone Out!
No more words like malarkey, or phrases like "lying dog face pony soldier"
No more "come on man" or "heres the deal"
No more falling up a set of stairs or falling off a bicycle.
and best of all No more Chinese Spy Balloons traversing across the country.

Do I need to play this tune for the next four years, like a democrat pulls out the same set chapters from their playbook. Every Four Years.
No. But then again Our Victory Lap - has only just begun.

... Still waitng for that Coffee :)

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Gregory Deyss wrote to Mike Powell <=-

It is also concerning that there are Millions of people on the Social Security rolls that are past 130 years old and older. One of them is
older than the United States itself.

Most of those were probably data issues. But a simple audit every year would have caught them and they could easily fix those issues.

But they didn't want to for many reasons.

well, when we see The final List that DOGE has on the who's who -
that could show who sponsored the spending, as in what party they
belong to.

For the moment it is mere speculation based on who are these people
are. It is my opinion it is the Democrats that need victims.
Republicans - not so much.

Thomas Sowell quipped that Democrats don't want to help people until they become victims. Republicans want to keep people from becoming victims.

I just remember the Biden Administration telling us that issues from Rising Costs at the Supermarket
Illegal Immigration
Inflation
Other Problems
That these issues were all resolved. They said "Things were better
now." They were not.

How do you know when an Elitist is lying? His lips move.

We all eat Mike. People in Blue States as well as Red States.
We all have stomachs. Help is coming.
Trump has only been in office for about 30 days.

Mike's just pushing the tired old false Narrative - that no one listens to anymore except the mentally ill.


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DOGE has found some low-hanging fruit (USAID) but they've also announced other "fraud" that involves their misunderstanding of system default dates and would indeed be "nothing to see here" if it were not so worrisome.

Low hanging fruit? - I think its more than that.
Several initiatives - many of them were outside the the United States.

It was indeed low hanging fruit, an easy target and an easy win.

It is also concerning that there are Millions of people on the Social

ecurity

rolls that are past 130 years old and older.
One of them is older than the United States itself.

I will wait to see how many of these people were actually getting paid. I won't hold my breath, though, and suggest you don't either. Some might be
data issues, but a whole lot of it is going to turn out to be default dates that the system was likely built to interpret as a NULL value.

If the system was using IBM DB2, Elon would have announced a bunch of 124
year olds because, in DB2, a "null" date is represented as 19010101.
Programs that find that know not to treat 19010101 as a valid date. Other systems use a date in 1875, hence his "a bunch of 150 year olds"
announcement.

Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wasteful. The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too, I am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, which is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.

well, when we see The final List that DOGE has on the who's who -
that could show who sponsored the spending, as in what party they belong to.

For the moment it is mere speculation based on who are these people are.
It is my opinion it is the Democrats that need victims.
Republicans - not so much.

Again, the defense spending that is on the block is not likely a Democrat initiative, and has nothing to do with "victims."

The last election makes what liberals want irrelevant. Completely!

Not really. A lot of people voted for Trump because they were tired of seeing their grocery bills go up and were tired of being unheared. So far, they've not received *any* relief at the grocery store. Others voted for him as the lesser of two evils... it was either him or someone who was completely incompetent as VP.

I just remember the Biden Administration telling us that issues from
Rising Costs at the Supermarket Illegal Immigration Inflation
Other Problems
That these issues were all resolved. They said "Things were better now."
They were not.

True. Explain how renaming the Gulf of Mexico, pestering Canada about
becoming a state, examining what it would take to take over Gaza, or
pesting Denmark about Greenland will fix *ANY* of the issues you mentioned?

We all eat Mike. People in Blue States as well as Red States.
We all have stomachs. Help is coming.
Trump has only been in office for about 30 days.

And yet he has wasted those 30 days having the Gulf of Mexico renamed, and having a bunch of kids running around "accidentally" firing people. How
has he had time for that, and golfing, instead of getting to the economy?

Although gas has gone down (and started to *before* the election), the
price of groceries here is still going up, and at a higher rate than it was right before the election.

In 30 days Trump has done more positive things then Biden has done in his entire Presidency / I would even wage to say that Trump has done more in 30 days than Biden has done in his entire 50 year political career.

Aside from stopping some of the USAID programs, and shipping out some undocumented aliens, a lot of it is really stupid stuff that didn't need doing.

Only the most partisan of Trump voters were looking for someone to

stick

it to the liberals/left/Democrats." The rest just didn't want 4 more years of what we already had.

Do I need to play this tune for the next four years, like a democrat pulls

ut

the same set chapters from their playbook. Every Four Years.
No. But then again Our Victory Lap - has only just begun.

As I said, most voters were not looking for that. They want their cost of living to go down.


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I will wait

That's all any of us can do, is wait for the finding to become known.
I am confident that the findings will be released.
- that is what transparency in Government is all about.
I am not suggesting that [everything will be on display] but the Trump Administration will be and has already been far more transparent than the Biden clown show.

Trump overcame a lot of things that didn't need to happen.
Case in New York - pointless.
What is THAT other piece from Alvin "Cheeseburger" Brag that creates the felony? hmmm? We are S-T-I-L-L waiting aren't we? Huh..

Make no mistake, NY did this for one reason and one reason only, so that they could coin the the phrase "Felon" providing optics and finger pointing.
Then proclaiming and asking "You don't want a Felon, as President, do you?"
It Failed - It Epic Fashion.

Why do you think that there two assassination attempts on Trump's Life?
It was the idiots within liberal media who spewed hateful rhetoric that Trump was Dangerous, he is Hitler and he would start world war III.
The man has already been President for 4 years, but that does mater to the arrogant and the smug within the media.

Hate to break it to you, Mike. There are many sickos who listen to that stuff from liberal media including the soft spoken words from NPR..
Without any hesitation, it instantly becomes the listeners narrative too.
It is nothing more then twisted rhetoric, brought on by the hated and a thirst to be first.

I watched w/ disgust Biden and his cackling sidekick make all the wrong moves for our country and my head actually hurt trying to decipher her word salad.

Just because it is "approved spending" doesn't mean it is not wastef
The Republicans have also approved many things that are a waste, too
am sure. Hint - DOGE is also suggesting cuts to Defense spending, w
is typically not something Democrats race to spend money on.

I don't believe the CBS story, they will say anything to discredit, besmirch even attempt to embarrass the President. I'll tell you, what I see.
Which is I would wager a helluva lot more accurate.
(CBS) after all Lesley Stahl can't allow any winning by Trump, neither can Martha Raddatz. of ABC who is married to NPR executive. No Malarkey.

These networks: ALL are hoping that their broadcast(s) is in front of people who are sitting on the edge of their seat, listening and hanging on every word. All of a sudden a feeling of delight comes over the listeners faces, saying out loud in front of no one, "See I told you so!" The mood is of course one of vindication and delight for what was only a five weeks ago was a dam near certifiable emotional breakdown w/ the person shaking uncontrollably and looking like they would be self-distruct and all the while making a video for social media suggesting in a fit of fiery-rage saying if *YOU* voted for this man I hope the worst happens to you.

Hmm.. How accurate do you think I am thus far?

This is why I do not believe CBS. Even if any of this is true, it's short lived they will begin phase 2 soon w/ a severe case of disorder and heading even deeper and darker into the delves of madness.
Psychotic by definition at Merriam-Webster.

Meanwhile Trump will continue winning and more information will be coming
down the pike with what the latest discoveries that DOGE has found.

What this is really about... (and has always been about)
The Liberal media is trying desperately find a crack that they can exploit. But why? Nonetheless, that is what is happening they take great pride trying to find fault, instead of being honest and wanting the President to be a success. That is why Trump calls them the Dis-honest media.
I am sure that they have seen the election map results, but they don't care about any this because they are too arrogant and they are busy spinning their own narrative, again hoping it becomes yours.
and that's the way it is Friday, February 21, 2025
(I miss those days when this was said.)
Legendary newsman Walter Cronkite was a "left-wing radical, but you would never know that" from watching him on TV, Ben Carson said on May 16, 2016

Again, the defense spending that is on the block is not likely a Democrat initiative, and has nothing to do with "victims."

Nonetheless Democrats are about victim hood. all you gotta do is look at D.E.I initiatives as well as subsidized benefits that are given out to the poor. Not to mention the illegals - Victims All - Every single one of them.

I don't think you need to worry anything having to do the Defense Department.

True. Explain how renaming the Gulf of Mexico, pestering Canada about becoming a state, examining what it would take to take over Gaza, or pesting Denmark about Greenland will fix *ANY* of the issues you mentioned?

Renaming the gulf - The Gulf of America, is about American pride.
it's too bad if this keeps folks up at night.
As for Gaza and Greenland - we will do that too.

Canada eh? Oh Canada!
Are you aware of the Canada's trade deficit with the U.S.
Speaking on his Truth Social platform earlier in February, Mr Trump said:
"We pay hundreds of Billions of Dollars to SUBSIDIZE Canada.
Why? There is no reason."

And yet he has wasted those 30 days having the Gulf of Mexico renamed,
and having a bunch of kids running around "accidentally" firing people. How has he had time for that, and golfing, instead of getting to the economy?

Trump is multi-taskier - he is not Biden, who had a nap in the afternoon.
But look, Biden took a whopping 577 days of vacation, in his 4 years of his sleepy Presidency and he was probably in bed and fast asleep by 9 PM.
Trump works late well into the early hours of the morning and is up early.

So if Trump wants to play a few rounds of Golf? I think the hardest working President in recent Presidential history should be entitled, specially how he is still getting the business done for American people.
It's been 30 days
"so keep your shirt on." - Charles Trip Tucker III / Star Trek Enterprise

Aside from stopping some of the USAID programs, and shipping out some undocumented aliens, a lot of it is really stupid stuff that didn't need doing.

You do realize that findings w/ USAID is less then 1 % there is far corruption fraud, waste and abuse that will be analyzed and eliminated.

As I said, most voters were not looking for that. They want their cost
of living to go down.

What makes you think we cannot have our cake and eat it too.
meaning there is no limitations upon us.
Trump ran on many promises - so far a President of accomplishments, and like I said earlier it has only been a little more then 30 days.
I will watch with satisfaction as The Man:
out works, out performs, out maneuvers all the naysayers. - Again.

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Trump overcame a lot of things that didn't need to happen.
Case in New York - pointless.
What is THAT other piece from Alvin "Cheeseburger" Brag that creates the felony? hmmm? We are S-T-I-L-L waiting aren't we? Huh..

Make no mistake, NY did this for one reason and one reason only, so that they could coin the the phrase "Felon" providing optics and finger pointing. Then proclaiming and asking "You don't want a Felon, as President, do you?" It Failed - It Epic Fashion.

You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it: In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon."
Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president, they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

You know that crap is heading our way. It's just a matter of time (unless we find a way to get those monkeys back in their cages.)

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it:
In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president,
they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"




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felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president, they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"

That's fine with me, but it's not going to go over well with your racial equity buddies.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it:
In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president,
they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's
too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal
history checks.

The "left" weakened the definition? Are you calling MAGAs "the left"?
They are the ones who kept changing that definition so that it wouldn't
define Donald Trump. It was so important to make sure the definition
didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending*
Hunter's actions.

What a flip-flop!


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You are totally right about that. And there's even more layers to it:
In doing this, the left has now weakened the definition of "convicted felon." Soon they'll be saying that "if they can serve as president, they should also be able to vote." Or even worse: they'll say that it's too discriminatory for employers to conduct pre-employment criminal history checks.

I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"

If we need a Constitutional amendment for anything, it is probably this.


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The "left" weakened the definition? Are you calling MAGAs "the left"? They are the ones who kept changing that definition so that it wouldn't define Donald Trump. It was so important to make sure the definition didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

And although they were fussing about it at the time, they've turned "convicted felon" into something that's not even worth the fuss.

"So you're a convicted felon? Did you violate a bank policy or something?"

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

I think it's more likely that they're saying "A FELON SHOULDN'T BE ABLE
TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR SERVE AS PRESIDENT"

That's fine with me, but it's not going to go over well with your
racial equity buddies.

I'll check at our next racial equity coffee klatsch.




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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one
way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

It's called "falsifying business documents", or is it only Fraud when
someone besides Trump does it?

didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

That's why I DID NOT VOTE for Hunter Biden!




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That's fine with me, but it's not going to go over well with your racial equity buddies.

I'll check at our next racial equity coffee klatsch.

You really are funny! hehe

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The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

It's called "falsifying business documents", or is it only Fraud when
someone besides Trump does it?

Property appraisals can vary. I bought my house for $50k 9 years ago and now Zillow says it's worth $120k.

If I apply for a loan and use my house as collateral, the bank might approve me for a $70k loan. And long after I pay off the loan, with interest, some Democrat who looks like a horse might pull out a calculator and say "His house is only worth $50k! Put him in jail!"

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The "left" weakened the definition? Are you calling MAGAs "the left"? They are the ones who kept changing that definition so that it wouldn't define Donald Trump. It was so important to make sure the definition didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that
they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

And although they were fussing about it at the time, they've turned "convicted
felon" into something that's not even worth the fuss.

"So you're a convicted felon? Did you violate a bank policy or something?"

There is a difference between the policies of an individual bank, and banking/finance laws. If the latter didn't exist, there are several rich
folks (including some lefties!) who would have robbed us all blind by now.


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The left turned violation of bank policy into a felony, so that's one way that they redefined what a "convicted felon" is.

It's called "falsifying business documents", or is it only Fraud when
someone besides Trump does it?

didn't include him that many MAGAs quit refering to Hunter Biden, a previous target of their scorn, as a "convicted felon" and started *defending* Hunter's actions.

That's why I DID NOT VOTE for Hunter Biden!

That was actually part of my quote, where I was pointing out how MAGAs
thought it was so important to change the definition of "convicted felon"
that they enen quit calling Hunter one. We KNOW that was a big change for them.


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

If I apply for a loan and use my house as collateral, the bank might approve me for a $70k loan. And long after I pay off the loan, with interest, some Democrat who looks like a horse might pull out a
calculator and say "His house is only worth $50k! Put him in jail!"

When you inflate the value of several properties over a 4 year period by
as much as $500 million dollars to lenders than you do in the same tax
year, it looks a bit sus.

When your attorney testifies that you do so to inflate assets when it
serves your purposes, as when trying to make Forbes' wealthiest list,
and deflate them with the specific purpose to reduce taxes.

And, the jury wasn't all democrats.



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When you inflate the value of several properties over a 4 year period by as much as $500 million dollars to lenders than you do in the same tax year, it looks a bit sus.

When your attorney testifies that you do so to inflate assets when it serves your purposes, as when trying to make Forbes' wealthiest list,
and deflate them with the specific purpose to reduce taxes.

The attorney general needs to get a life. There's nobody else being charged with "appraisal fraud." She does nothing to help crime victims. Nothing.

All she's done throughout her "career" is combat her political adversaries. She was behind the prosecution of Andrew Cuomo, and she even ran for governor in the Democratic primary. She sued Trump over his border orders. She sued the NRA.

Does that sound a little political to you?

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