On Mon 8-Sep-2025 4:22p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 said to Brent Hendricks:
Americans are no better. Our Democrats favored slavery just like their Josean dynasty did. Then they implemented segregation. And most recently they let 3000 black and brown people die along the US-Mexico border.
Granted, except for the most part we have moved past that, Korea has NOT, and probbably never will. Now, there are some parallels that will be obvious so I don't feel I need to touch on them from the American side.
Korea as a society (mostly due to the confusious upbringing that frowns above individial identiy and thought). Which not only holds them back technologically, but socially as well (One glaring part of this is seen in aviation training.)
* It took them DECADES to adopt a safety first culture, and adopt Crew Resouce Management. Even when the rest of the western world embraced and adopted it. The most recent example was Asiana 214, that besides the fact the training Captain misunderstood a function of the Auto Throttle system, 2 other Captains on the flight deck were not monitoring, or call for a go around until it was too late. 1994 Korean Air 2033. Crashed on attempting to land in Jeju while trying to beat a typhoon. The approach became unstable and the CoPilot mentioned several times he wanted to GO AROUND. A Canadian Captain told the First Officer to continue. At about 40 AGL the First Officer did attempt to go around, and the Captain took over and set the plane down. Too far down the runway to stop in time and the Airbus A-300 exited the end of the runway. The Korean authorities jailed the first officer, and the Canadadian Captain was released on bail with a promise to return, which he did not. At least in the US it is unheard of to threaten or enact arrests stemming from transportation accidents for fear it will deter other flight crews from being forthcoming in the subsequent investigations. Additionally MOST if not ALL Western carriers have abopted a NO FAULT GO AROUND POLICY, if either crew feels a go around is called for, for ANY REASON. A Go Around should be carried out, and if countermanded, questions will be asked. This may have also lead to a later crash of a KAL cargo plane at Londan Standsted. Where the Captains Artifical Horizon Indicator was faulty, though both the Standy ADI, and First Officers ADI were functiong nomrally. The Captain and First Officer had already had words during the prelfight. The captain innitated a standard departure turn, and the ADI still showed straight an level flight, so the Captain continued banking the aircraft. Even with the illumination of a "Comparitor Error" warning and the Flight Engineer warning of excessive bank the First Officer said nothing while the Captain rolled the 747 into the ground! The First Officer SHOULD have pointed out the comparitor error and bank, or taken control. Instead he decided it was better to die than question a superior!
Don't even get me started on the Sewol disaster, which supposedly they couldn't start their rescue operation because they couldn't locate the President, who was getting a hair cut! Leading to the death of over 300 children! Even during the political fall out, trial and arrest of Park Gyun Hee, nobody though to point out, "If our command and control structure relys on ONE PERSON to dispatch the Coast Guard to a vessel in distress, our command and control structure SUCKS!"
Korean can not move past their own history and use it as a sheild from any type of growth. Blaming Japanese Colonialization, fast industrialization, the Korean War, the Dictatorship of Park Chung Hee, etc. They have ended up with a an emotionly immature society that from the outside looks entirely narcacistic. Couples dress the same. Friendships end because someone likes a different style of music, doesn't eat the same food. When you ask the simple question, of "Well, we both like this type of food, why can't when we go out we eat this then you are with your other friends you can eat that." They just can't compute that, it's different, and accepting difference will lead to a break down of social order! We can't be friends! My ex wife at times acted like she matured to the age of 12 and that was it, she would rage for hours over the stupidest of things, or things that did not even concern her. Korea even has a diagnosis for this, Hwabyung, or Korean Rage Syndrome. Again, its somebody else, my history doesn't make me accountable!
The Korean school system is brutal, children spend over 12 hours a day doing nothing but school work, first their normal school, then after school Hogwan until 10pm or so, then go home and study, all to prepare them for the "national exam", which if they fail means they will not get into a good university, will not get a good job, which will disgrace their family.
The No No Japan protests and boycots. Almost nobody involved in that was even alive during the Japanese occupation. If you got the people that were, it would just be a bunch of old farts hanging out together.
Korea wants the foreign tourism, with their low birthrate they will have to accept the fact they will need more and more foriegn workers.
As more an more social problems mount, they either enact sweeping open ended laws that can trap everyone, which leads to them being used for retaliation, "Privacy of face", "Defamation Using Truth", even the newly enacted "Anti Stalking Laws."
As already stated, South Korea is IN CRISIS record suicides, record low birth rates, people trying to leave the country in droves to escape HELL JEOSAN. Heck when I was checking in for my flight out of there, I mentioned I had lived there for 14 years, the guy looked up and said, "You're getting out of prison...".
Any way, back on track. My original post which I strayed FAR AFIELD, was I find it hillarious that the South Korean government is up in arms about this, which means South Koreans are being stirred into a tizzy, AND especially the English Teachers, which given the thin ice (No pun attended) they always are on living there on a work VISA are upset. Though they are quite the left wing bunch. I do have to say though, when I had my runin with their Immigration they were fair and came down in my favor. I know other people though (Who happened to be black) that did not fare as well (And they had their original charges dropped by the prosecutors.).
Turn about is fair play!
This seems like a misunderstanding; they thought that if they kiss our butts and build cars here, then it would be "totally cool" to sneak 500 illegals in (it's so not cool though.)
Oh I don't think there was a misunderstanding AT ALL.. They rolled the dice and got caught. OR and this may be a good topic for the conspiracy echo.
The new President is also very left leaning, and is courting Russia and China and might be looking for a way to stir up AntiAmerican setiment to force a troop withdrawl. I noticed a lot of Koreans are pretty nieve about the threat from North Korea. When I was in Cambodia touring the Killing Fields with my Ex, I pointed out that if for some bizarre reason North Korea won a war with the South. This is exactly what would happen. She looked at me and said, "OH NO!!! We are all all Korean.." I just shook my head and pointed to the stupa with 5,000 Kmhere skulls in it. "3 Million Kmere though the same thing, there are 5,000 of them looking at you!"
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